Comment on Australia tests new long-range missile capable of hitting targets 500km away
Gorgritch_umie_killa@aussie.zone 3 days agoBut that is the height of foolishness. Once a partner proves it can be unreliable, then it must influence our decisions regards that partner.
To double down on that partner is crazy. One person doesn’t make policy, Trump least of all, he spends all his time chasing the latest shiny object that distracts from his theft and corruption.
There are many senior officials in that country that take client status for the ADF as a given, after Ukraine that is no longer a position the US can be trusted to hold.
Its probably also true that a large part of the US would probably like a disentanglement from their allies as well, they have foolish reasons, America First, etc… but that is something that makes Australua’s pragmatic decisions all the more important to get right.
Eyekaytee@aussie.zone 3 days ago
yeah if it were up to me i’d be aligning with israel for air defence, ukraine for drones of every kind, uk for ships, europe for fighter jets, korea/germany for tanks etc
Gorgritch_umie_killa@aussie.zone 3 days ago
We shouldn’t rely on nations willing to commit genocide for anything. Therefore Israel is a non-starter, and must be treated with caution and distance from here on in all levels of engagement.
A concentration on domestic, or near neighbour manufacturing should be our focus. The European powers are probably more reliable in terms of not letting sudden political values changes, shred their military alliances, but their ability to supply a nation on the other side of the world limits the extent we can rely on such partnerships.
In other words, we can rely on New Zealand absolutely, then other nations to much lesser degrees than we have been, in terms of maintaining a secure logistical supply of our essential ADF technology. This means I do think we have to completely re-engineer our defense force, and community expectations around what our military is capable of delivering.
Our military has been artificially propped up to a more capable technology level than our country has prepared to be able to maintain, in a world where might makes right, that means our sovereignty is beholden to the whims of our senior suppliers. I’d like more independence of manoeuvre than that.
Eyekaytee@aussie.zone 3 days ago
l want the best from allies we can rely on, israel who has the worlds best air defence system which it uses as protection from its genocidal neighbours and islamic terrorists across the border
I have not heard of nz excelling in anything defence related? i forgot they had an army tbh
europe is struggling to keep up with the us, musk for example is a huge influence with starlink, we have to rely on others or we’ll be left behind and inevitably lose influence/wars
Gorgritch_umie_killa@aussie.zone 3 days ago
If you want the best from ‘allies’ then the US should have been the partner of choice in most of that little list.
Your thoughts on Israel are tiring, a refusal to see a genocide when it is happening in front of you is sad. I hope one day you’ll recognise the ridiculousness of your equivalences with their far less powerful neighbours. Even if you could prove a genocide against Israel by those neighbours (which cant be done), one genocide doesn’t absolve another genocide. A crime against humanity stands as a black mark against those who sink to those levels of depravity.
The reason NZ is the partner of choice, is because they are the only nation we can rely on. I alluded to this earlier, my view is we should accept less influence, but be more able to protect ourselves. Essentially we have become too reliant on the alliance structure as a means of securing our power and prosperity, to a fault. I advocate a paring back of this reliance, which inherently means a trade off of international power, but means we will be a more reliable partner, and not a subject, in a conflict.