Smoking ban for people born after 2008 in the UK agreed

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• GandalftheBlack@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Lord Naseby, a Conservative former MP, said the Tobacco and Vapes Bill “does upset a great many people in that industry”, including retailers.

  Good.

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• MyOpinion@lemmy.today ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Fantastic. Time to limit this plague.

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• Armand1@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Secretary of State for Health and Social Care, Wes Streeting,

  🤢

  It’s not clear how they will police this. Will you need to provide ID at point of sale? Will we punish buyers? Will this just make this all go underground?

  While I do think everyone should quit smoking, it’s easier said than done and it could disproportionately affect disadvantaged people.

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  • mannycalavera@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    It’s not clear how they will police this. Will you need to provide ID at point of sale?

    You have to right now if you’re lucky (unlucky) enough to still look like a child otherwise the seller is fined quite substantially and they do spot checks to enforce this. Same with alcohol. The difference is that the lowest age will increase each year.

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  • CobblerScholar@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Prohibition never works, if people want something then they are going to find it. The only thing this does is make smoking tobacco even less safe than it already is. If they truly wanted people to stop smoking then they just need to keep raising the tax on it year after year but of course new taxes are unpopular and politicians hate to be unpopular

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    • Darkassassin07@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Outright banning it or taxing the shit out of it have the same effect: buyers go to underground sellers, further risking their health/bypassing legal quality controls.

      Source: I’m a weed smoker in Canada. While it is legal here; it’s like 80% cheaper to use ‘native’ dispensaries (shops on native land, run by natives, and thus not subject to federal/provincial taxes). It’s been several years since I last used a govt dispensary, and that was mostly because my usual sources were unavailable at the time.

      $10-15/gram shatter vs $45-50/gram at a govt dispensary.

      At least the taxing option brings in revenue for the govt and keeps people out of jail just for consuming their substance of choice without harming anyone else.

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  • LodeMike@lemmy.today ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Bold of you to assume the U.K. government has the ability to reason.

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  • then_three_more@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    I’d assume I’d at the retailer, like they legally have to do to make sure you’re over 18 now. It’ll just be the age goes up and up and up.

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• torik@lemmychan.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  But alcohol is ok?

  This just reeks of banning something because we, personally, do not like it.

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  • comrade_twisty@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    I am totally fine if it reeks of banning it because it reeks…

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  • mannycalavera@feddit.uk ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    If it “reeks” of anything it reeks of making a compromise of what is more damaging to society and what could reasonably be done given the current circumstances.

    Smoking / vaping hands down trumps drink. That’s not to say drink isn’t damaging but of the two what is more damaging.

    It’s actually one of the more sensible things this government has achieved.

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    • torik@lemmychan.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Smoking / vaping hands down trumps drink.

      By what metric are you basing this off of?

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• tinned_tomatoes@feddit.uk ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Great news. Some people cry about government overreach but this is a good thing. It’s insane that we still have entire industries around tobacco. Vapes aren’t going anywhere for those after 2008 who want to smoke, and the lack of tobacco in their lungs will be a net plus for the NHS.

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