All modern cars are vulnerable, not just EVs. If you wanted something “hackerproof”, get an older vehicle with manual transmission and no infotainment center. No drive or brake by wire.
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Submitted 22 hours ago by War5oldier@lemmy.world to [deleted]
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_haha_oh_wow_@sh.itjust.works 21 hours ago
Iconoclast@feddit.uk 20 hours ago
You drive an old car to protect yourself from hackers. I drive an old car because I’m broke. We’re not the same.
wildbus8979@sh.itjust.works 22 hours ago
Why do you think this only applies to EVs?
DomeGuy@lemmy.world 22 hours ago
Not all EVs are drive-by-wire, and not all ICVs aren’t.
PlexSheep@infosec.pub 21 hours ago
I’m in infosec. At some point you have to stop questioning things to remain a functioning member of society. All the computers, huge or tiny component are technically attack surface.
But the really scary shit is actually vehicles without a driver in them.
slazer2au@lemmy.world 21 hours ago
All cars are hackable. In fact there is a yearly Pwn2Own competition to hack them and make them more secure (hopefully)
dan1101@lemmy.world 21 hours ago
Nothing is hacker proof especially not EVs that are being developed at a breakneck pace to try and beat the competition. When you move fast and break stuff to get your product working well enough to sell, security is low on the priority list. Considering Teslas can’t even detect a fire truck parked on the road, that will give you a clue as to the state of their software.
Iconoclast@feddit.uk 20 hours ago
If it’s connected to the internet then it can be hacked. Though in the literal meaning of the term virtually anything can be hacked. It just means finding an unconventional way to operate something.
CompactFlax@discuss.tchncs.de 21 hours ago
EV? Why not ICE too?
m.youtube.com/watch?v=MK0SrxBC1xs
Vehicles are more connected than 10 years ago.
Zwuzelmaus@feddit.org 21 hours ago
EVs are different. I depends very, very much on the manufacturer.
Teslas are nothing more than playtoys. Everything is possible, nothing is secure.
Other american manufacturers are also thin. Not quite secure.
European manufacturers have strong traditions with their technology, and they are somewhat similar in this regard. But they are partially leaving these traditions, and there some vulnerabilities start.
Chinese ones, I don’t really know. But they are new, so it is safe to assume that they still have a lot to learn.
Delascas@feddit.uk 22 hours ago
I am employed by a major Tier 1 electronics supplier to multiple car manufactures. Your question has NOTHING to do with EV’s - we sell the exact same ADAS components for use in EV’s, ICE, and hybrid cars & trucks.
But to answer your question . . . nothing is 100% hacker proof. All modern cars (ICE, EV’s, hybrid) cars could be hacked . . and any of them with an advanced ADAS system could be modified as you describe to “frame the driver”.
Delascas@feddit.uk 21 hours ago
So after receiving a flood of replies saying the same thing . . . this could happen to all modern cars . . you go back and edit the OP to double-down on the EV question?
Are you a shill for big oil???