The wired link from 2021 is still a nothingburger
let's kill proton mail
Submitted 3 weeks ago by not_IO@lemmy.blahaj.zone to [deleted]
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Zwiebel@feddit.org 3 weeks ago
Zaphod@discuss.tchncs.de 3 weeks ago
No thanks, I don’t wanna switch E-Mail provider again
HappyFrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 weeks ago
I don’t use protonmail, bit the things you posted are not nearly enough to condemn the entire service.
MidsizedSedan@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
OK, proton isn’t perfect. I don’t like the All In One App, but its better than Google…
And the free service of email and minimal VPN is still a great entry for those trying to break away from Goole services
Wait. This is the shitpost community? What is this here???
Iheartcheese@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Why this sub?
UnRelatedBurner@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
quick question, if I registered for free with no identifier, and I get an email that has my info, like I order something, is that account “compromised”? Can they now link all other emails to me?
dev_null@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
Not on Proton’s side, but whoever sent you that email obviously has both your info and your Proton address so they know it’s connected to you, even if Proton doesn’t.
UnRelatedBurner@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
Haha somehow I never realised this. Not much point to it than huh? Still, proton supports aliases, so I can give a “compromised” alias to someone like my bank, and still have untraceable aliases to the same inbox? Or does proton have to provide alias related information when asked?
tuhriel@discuss.tchncs.de 3 weeks ago
The mail is encrypted, so probably not, but they have an extensive privacy policy and some blog entries, against which threats they can protect you, which they can’t
stoy@lemmy.zip 3 weeks ago
I saw a post about this earlier, it is a nothingburger.
The user in question paid for his account with a personal credit card, he didn’t use an anonymous payment alternative which are available.
Proton has stated that they will comply with law enforcement requests, but are working to maintain as few logs as possible.
This is an opsec failure on the user’s side.
This is not Proton handing IDs of their customers to the government on a silver platter, this is their customer not understanding the service they use.
gurty@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Agreed - Proton is a tool for security but it isn’t a hired babysitter for your personal info.
tuhriel@discuss.tchncs.de 3 weeks ago
Also, proton didn’t hand anything to the FBI, they got served by the swiss government and gave it them… Which might be a technicality, but they do not hand out information to foreign agencies
mushroomman_toad@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 weeks ago
People shouldnt need to think about opsec to have private emails. False advertising on Protonmails part, and government policy issue in the countries in question.
stoy@lemmy.zip 3 weeks ago
Arguing about what people should or should not have to do is pointless.
It changes nothing and removes the debate from being practical to being theoretical.
starblursd@lemmy.zip 3 weeks ago
It’s not false advertising. They don’t log your account usage, they must comply with swiss law, user ignored the anonymous payment methods and used a personal card for an account for illegal acts.
The policy clearly states that they must comply with swiss law enforcement, and never claimed that payment info or metadata is encrypted.
User error
tuhriel@discuss.tchncs.de 3 weeks ago
It’s not false advertising. Just because a company advertises with privacy, it doesn’t mean they are bullet prove.
they don’t sell your data, they actually have very little data to share at all, but they do follow the swiss law.
They even publish which kind of requests they get: proton.me/legal/transparency