I consider myself as a left-libertarian who supports limited government and direct democracy. Can left-libertarians support limited government?

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• zxqwas@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I think you’re coming at it from the wrong way. Instead of picking a label (left libert…) and figure out if you can support a policy (lim. gov.) you should think about if you belive a policy is a good idea and let someone else figure out what label to give you if they feel like they want to.

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  • DylanMc6@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Left-libertarianism emphasizes personal freedoms and such while also supporting economic equality

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    • JayleneSlide@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      You keep repeating this, without going into any detail on what any of this means to you. How do you square economic equality with limited government? The former requires extremely strong and well-considered regulation with well-funded government agencies to stick it to corps and billionaires.

      When someone says “I’m Libertarian,” the implicit translation is:

      • I want to do any and all drugs I want (great, go for it; this is probably their only respectable plank, but enacted in isolation the consequences are dire)
      • I want to fuck minors (eww)
      • I don’t want to pay any taxes, but I still want all the trappings of a mutually beneficial society (“what do you mean my local roads are in disrepair, there’s no garbage pickup, and my neighbor poisoned my well with his unpermitted auto repair business?!”)
      • AnCap FTW! (eww, again)

      Libertarianism is an extremely naive political platform. Most people who subscribe to its ideals fail to investigate the history of Libertarian ideals in action. Speaking as a former, briefly Libertarian-voting individual, after diving into the planks of the platform, it quickly became clear that Libertarianism is antithetical to a functioning society.

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    • zxqwas@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      It sounds like an inevitable tradeoff.

      I’m genuinely curious.
      How would a small government ensure economic equality? High taxes and UBI is still the government being responsible for a large portion of your needs, even if the bureaucracy may be somewhat slimmer.

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    • False@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Yes, and what do you think that means the role of government should be?

      No one can answer this for you, you need to think for yourself.

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• IWW4@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I am going to work under the assumption that this is a legitimate question and not bating.

  One of the corner stones of libertarianism is limited government.

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• disregardable@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I’m a little confused on what basis you mean left, because without strong government there aren’t going to be any checks on capitalism, discrimination, abuses, etc.

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  • kabe@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    “Left” does always require big, central governments.

    Anarchists advocate for self-organized, decentralized communities and federations based on voluntary cooperation.

    And he end goal of Communism was essentially the same thing.

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  • DylanMc6@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Left-libertarianism emphasizes personal freedoms and such while also supporting economic equality

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    • disregardable@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      That doesn’t really respond to the dilemma. If there isn’t a strong system to stop abuses, there aren’t going to be personal freedoms and economic equality.

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    • birdwing@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      You might be interested in anarchist and council communism then, perhaps

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• ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Libertarianism is a scam invented by rich people to pump public money into their pockets. Don’t fall for it.

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• PM_ME_VINTAGE_30S@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Left-libertarian is a really broad term, so yes 🙂.

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• devolution@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  No because of the libertarian part. Much of libertarianism is about self sufficiency, which is fine in theory. However, when that mindset affects supporting parks, fire fighters, police, schools, and so on, it leads to indifferent community care.

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  • DylanMc6@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Is that why collectivism is more efficient?

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    • devolution@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Depends.

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