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Engineer proves that Kohler’s smart toilet cameras aren’t very private

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Submitted ⁨⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨along_the_road@beehaw.org⁩ to ⁨technology@beehaw.org⁩

https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2025/12/despite-accessing-user-data-kohler-still-says-its-smart-toilet-cameras-use-e2ee/

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  • lightnsfw@reddthat.com ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Someone in a board meeting somewhere used the term toilet camera and wasn’t fired immediately…

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    • Sims@lemmy.ml ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Probably just inserted the Magic word “Profit” into the sentence. Any psychopathy is allowed from that point onwards…

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  • cypherpunks@lemmy.ml ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    goose chasing person meme template, caption “end-to-end encrypted to who”

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  • TehPers@beehaw.org ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Quoting Kohler:

    We encrypt data end-to-end in transit, as it travels between users’ devices and our systems, where it is decrypted and processed to provide and improve our service.

    I guess Kohler recently learned about TLS? IBM’s response, which is a bit random in my opinion, addresses the idiocy of the E2EE claim lol.

    I’d hope they encrypt data in transit? Not doing so would be an incredible, though unsurprising, show of incompetence. Setting up TLS and getting certs is easy these days with LetsEncrypt, and a company like Kohler could even get certs through AWS or Azure or something if they wanted.

    I can’t imagine why I’d ever spend money on a camera for my toilet, especially if it includes a subscription fee. That’s a new level of stupid.

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    • scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I’ve seen way way way too many marketers try to fluff up https as “encrypted”. They clearly heard a keyword and they go off the walls like they’re the most secure company that ever existed. Usually just a single follow up question like “is it encrypted at rest” or “is my data encrypted with a different key than other users”, or even “does your company have the ability to decrypt it” falls flat on them.

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    • Kissaki@beehaw.org ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      End to end - just like the food through your body 😏

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  • CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Not shocked. The fact other people might be shocked just tells you how out of control trust in the magic boxes and the people who sell them has gotten. When they collect something more sensitive or embarrassing, people just assume the security and regulation is tighter to match.

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  • cypherpunks@lemmy.ml ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    shocked-pikachu

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  • notsure@fedia.io ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    ...i want to see a shocked pikachu face...

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    • ApathyTree@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Image

      This one seems more fitting.

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      • notsure@fedia.io ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        ..i agree, wholeheartedly...i seem tongue tied...

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  • Applesause@mander.xyz ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    It’s a bold new look.

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