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• Acamon@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  It’s not that I think your trolling. I don’t understand the question. What does house trained mean in this context? How is it different from controlled?

  Similarly, I don’t understand what you mean by “allowing the kill and conquer to rampage”.

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  • Ancalagon@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    It would seem indeed there might be infact a silly question ⁉️

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  • DaddysLittleSlut@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Well it seems of what I’ve seen people don’t have an overwhelming reaction to certain foods. How protohumans did.

    Like when meat controls dopamine & norepinephrine, gives tryptophan & B-vitamins which regulate serotonin and melatonin. And it spikes Testosterone and IGF-1.

    All of these should active a very high. State of readiness. When it comes to the actions in our ancestors which is Hunt/Kill (get more food), Conquer (Take over new lands or dominate species), and reproduce (which we know what that is).

    But of what I’ve seen people have these trays dimmed or not accessible anymore?

    In this case, housetrained means extra calm, less reproducing, less territorial, and just all of the things that could be optimized for a better state. I was genuinely asking why couldn’t we optimize those states above and push them into control rather than dimming or full on losing those abilities.

    It may be hard to understand if you aren’t knowledgeable in science of this sorts of haven’t experienced it. Sorry.

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• Buffalox@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Your question seems mostly nonsensical, we are not “house trained”, and what do you mean by “rather than controlled”?
  Is your question based on biblical or another form of faith?

  But in short regarding our social behavior, the principle of it is not very different from social behaviors of other animals like dogs or chimpanzees. We “behave” because we are social animals and it’s in our DNA to work for the benefit of the the group.
  Obviously misbehavior is generally rooted in conflict of interests, which can naturally occur in all groups. They are absolutely not generally a result of mania.

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  • porcoesphino@mander.xyz ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I’d add “mania” to that list of terms that need defining. They seem to have a specific meaning that’s probably misaligned with most people reading the question:

    lemmy.world/comment/19666332

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  • DaddysLittleSlut@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Also no the question is based off how protohumans responded to different things. What I’m saying has scientific backing. I just don’t understand why we lost the primitive way instead of controlling it.

    Such as taking the hard focus and power on Kill and Conquer using that for something else rather than Illegal things.

    One ew the bible and two my faith is only based in science. (sorry good Christians)

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  • DaddysLittleSlut@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    This question is very sensical if you understand what the states I’m discussing are. House trained (less calm (instead of more controlled), less reproducing, less territorial and more) controlled means take that extra aggression from Kill and Conquer and instead of doing illegal things. Focus it into optimal Physical Ability.

    Also I’m confused what you meant by misbehaving and I don’t understand why you said it’s not a common result of mania. I don’t believe I mentioned it was? And I didn’t say psychological illness was the cause for the primitive conditions or criminal behaviour? Also why is primitive and criminal interchangeable unless I’m reading that wrong?

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    • klugerama@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I believe that the reason everyone is having an issue with your question - and your replies - is that you’re communicating poorly.

      You seem to be inventing usages for words and terms that have well-established, widely understood meanings: “house trained” already means something unrelated to human behavior, but you seem to be using it in a way similar to “domesticated”. “Manic” is commonly associated with mental health conditions, so you being confused as to why that was mentioned doesn’t make sense when you were the one to mention mania:

      Since when I experience protohuman traits such as Kill, Conquer and Reproduce. It doesn’t feel anything like what is explained or expected with Mania.

      Also:

      House trained (less calm (instead of more controlled)

      I just can’t figure out what that is supposed to mean. Being civilized is less calm?

      Regardless, to attempt to answer what I think you’re asking: these “protohuman traits” such as “Kill, Conquer, and Reproduce” were selected over millions of years of predatory competition. But once civilization became the dominant selection filter, survival was more contingent upon cooperation than domination and aggression.

      Physiologically, our endocrine systems didn’t need to change, though - there’s been either not enough selection pressure or not enough time for there to be a noticeable difference in how we process various enzymes and hormones that we evolved to survive as hunter-gatherers. It simply hasn’t been necessary to our survival to “control” it.

      Besides, it took millions of years and thousands of mutations across thousands of speciation events to develop that extremely complex system, and civilization has only been around for about 20,000 years, and - at most - two or three hominid species.

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• YaBoyMax@programming.dev ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  So based on this and your post the other day about red meat, I really really really advise you to seek counseling or a psychiatrist. Obviously no one can diagnose you via social media, but this post is borderline incomprehensible and your recent posts and comments are strongly indictive of some kind of manic episode. I really think you would benefit from help right now and I really urge you to seek it.

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  • DaddysLittleSlut@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Wait question are you saying it’s incomprehensible due to it being so unusual to you because the Logic and Grammar are both fine. It’s not like what I’m saying is jumbled.

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  • DaddysLittleSlut@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    It’s crazy how you see in borderline incomprehensible? Since everything deeply ties to a scientific idea. Seen in both Proto human and early human societies.

    I think it’s more that I just know too much or have diverged so far from typical civilization that it seems incomprehensible unless someone deeply knows past humans and more.

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• Zelaf@sopuli.xyz ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  There seems to be a lot of confusion regarding your question from users. If I understand it correctly, you’re wondering about when the human species became less of hunter-gatherers and more socially adept animals and when and why societal progress started suppressing aggressive behaviours in tribe-based expansion and control.

  You referencing “protohuman traits” makes it a bit harder however since protohumans are before our own species of homo sapiens but I could imagine that a lot of those traits are closely related to early homo sapien society.

  I don’t have a lot of answers for you but I think the answer maybe lies in sociological studies and things like Social Contract theory. Maybe it’s that slowly people got more rights to not be hurt by others because they could bring value to society as a whole in other ways and with the invention of agriculture, things like jobs became more viable and governments formed with laws then religion came along and what not too heavily influencing rights and wrongs.

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  • DaddysLittleSlut@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Your answer actually makes lots of sense and yeah I’m guessing it likely stayed into early Homo Sapiens too at least of what I’ve heard. And yes thank you for trying to understand and you pinpointed it exactly!

    And yeah I see what you mean. The final nail in the coffin likely came with religions that crazily altered right from wrong. I’d assume like Abrahamic , Buddhism, and similar.

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• Zwuzelmaus@feddit.org ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Troll with AI texts

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  • DaddysLittleSlut@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Huh? What AI text. I typed this all myself. Like dude. What is AI, can you explain why it seems that way?

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    • Zwuzelmaus@feddit.org ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      It seems that way when I have asked myself, during reading, how could any sane human (that means, true artists are exempt) ever produce such a text, and after the third or fourth time, approximately, that I have asked this without a good answer, I finally come to that conclusion.

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