Is this not available through the FOI?
Although I would be curious. It’ll show if the whole “immigrants are…” stereotype thing is true or not. Most child abusers I know of are white.
What is the point of this exactly?
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Flax_vert@feddit.uk 3 weeks ago
givesomefucks@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Not really, it’s going to be under-reporting certain demographics.
In orthodox Jewish communities they have their own “cops” (Shomrim) and it’s against their religious law to turn a Jewish criminal (especially of their own sect) in to any authorities who aren’t explicitly Jewish.
In Brooklyn, Shomrim has been accused of withholding information about suspected local child molesters.[14] One Brooklyn South Shomrim member acknowledged to the press that they maintain a file of suspected local child molesters, and some believe that this file includes the suspects’ photos and the make, model and license-plate number of their cars. But Shomrim does not share this information with police due to the Torah prohibition against mesirah (informing on a fellow Jew to the non-Jewish authorities).[12] However, another high-ranking member claims that the other member was misquoted, and that the list that Brooklyn South Shomrim maintains is culled from the New York Sex Offender Registry.[46] Members of the Williamsburg Shomrim always consult a rabbi before involving police in a crime committed by one Jew against another.[13]
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Like, even if a normal cop happens to be Jewish, that’s not enough because the local police aren’t a Jewish organization.
Obviously other religions like Catholicism protects clergy, but it’s not a tenant of their religion that they can’t turn in any follower to secular authorities who are legally allowed to enforce laws.
In a lot of Orthodox communities, they don’t call 911, they call the Shomrim. If the victim is Jewish but not the perpetrator, then the Shomrim calls the police.
If the perpetrator is Jewish…
The crime isn’t punished or reported any higher. So all types of horrible shit is swept under the rug.
Flax_vert@feddit.uk 3 weeks ago
Don’t the Jehovah’s Witnesses have a similar file? I believe there was also an issue in Roman Catholicism of the seal of confession (Apparently priests would confess their child abuse before anyone found out about it, and people would be too scared to be seen as breaking that seal later on when evidence did surface.)
Z3k3@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
And generally caused by family members
wewbull@feddit.uk 3 weeks ago
Most child abusers I know of are white.
I think you have blinkers on. There’s a lot of baggage around this in lots of cultures.
cryptTurtle@piefed.social 3 weeks ago
Do y'all not already have a public database for local sex offenders?
ohulancutash@feddit.uk 2 weeks ago
The database is for official use only. There is a disclosure scheme where a member of the public can ask the police whether a specific person (who is in unsupervised contact with children) is a registered sex offender or poses other threat to a child.
There do seem to be crowdsourced vigilante databases culled from media reports, which is probably a very bad idea.
MapleEngineer@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
To show that the vast majority of child sex crime in the UK is committed by white, birthright citizens of the UK?
Lyra_Lycan@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 weeks ago
Honesty is the best policy, after all. The only problem is some of those marked as sex offenders are innocent and don’t deserve to be hunted and killed by the vigilantes this list would inspire.
MapleEngineer@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
It won’t collect the statistics of the white, wealthy, and powerful who have always gotten away with their crimes because other white, wealthy, powerful people look the other way.
s12@sopuli.xyz 2 weeks ago
If you’re right, then this would mean that the people who don’t like immigrants would struggle more with getting people to their side, and thus be less likely to destroy the country.
If you’re wrong, then it would mean that immigrants would be less likely to destroy the country.
Either way, it will be more statistics that news sites and drama people will be able to spin to generate clicks.
MapleEngineer@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
The only problem with this idea is that it is designed to record sex crimes against children by non-wealthy, non-politically and -religiously connected, non-powerful, and non-white child sex predators. The wealthy child sex predators, the politically connected child sex predators, the religiously connected child sex predators, and the powerful child sex predators who are predominantly white and birthright citizens will continue to cover for each other or be moved from parish to parish to continue their child sex crimes as her have done for hundreds of years.