I’m sorry, based on the video this looks - - in the words used to describe Cones of Dunshire - - punishingly intricate
Star Trek: Infinite could be the grand strategy game Trekkies need
Submitted 9 months ago by ValueSubtracted@startrek.website to startrek@startrek.website
https://www.polygon.com/23862814/star-trek-infinite-release-date-strategy-game-paradox
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HWK_290@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Tavarin@lemmy.ca 9 months ago
Have you never heard of Paradox games before? They are indeed very intricate, though great games once you learn them.
sj_zero@lotide.fbxl.net 9 months ago
I dunno. I don't really feel like the character of Star Trek fits within the typical combat game template.
The whole point of the franchise is exploration, finding out what's out there, and expanding the realm of the possible. If I'm in charge of a Starfleet starship, I fully expect some number of my encounters to be techtech'd away or for many of the challenges to be moral rather than tactical.
The enterprise no bloody a b c or d was in constant peril, but the enterprise d was only very rarely in a situation they couldn't shoot their way out of.
NuPNuA@lemm.ee 9 months ago
That’s the whole point of 4X games, you don’t have to win militarily. However your opponents may not have your same aversion to it, so you do need to defend yourself. Just like the federation in the show really.
c0mbatbag3l@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Literally in every series except Voyager the Federation is in a hot war with some foreign power and the “Remember when we were just explorers?” Lines are usually tongue in cheek, with the full understanding that exploration was only ever a small part of Starfleet/Federation operations, while they spent far more time dealing with rogue factions and warring with other species.
fixmycode@feddit.cl 9 months ago
agreed, the Enterprise always stops the warp engine in front of another ship’s debris. Ton of stories about manouvers with pilot names, tons of situations where the ship weapons doesn’t work so they have to resort to diplomacy, and we’ve always looked at this world from the perspective of one ship. I’m pretty sure the rest of the captains are more Jellico than Picard
evdo@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 months ago
Yeah, I do find it weird how many Star Trek games are all ship combat and such. That’s generally the least interesting part of Star Trek stories.
idotherock@lemm.ee 9 months ago
I’m so on board for this.
Stamets@startrek.website 9 months ago
I’m a big Stellaris fan (not that I’m good at it) so having a Trek flavored version is going to be perfect. It also does really make sense to have it set in the Star Trek universe to begin with. There are so many prebuilt situations that you can revisit through a new lens. Do a bunch of ‘What If’ scenarios. It’s going to be wonderful.
We barely get any Trek games lately and it’s exhausting. Most of them are mobile games which can be fun but don’t require much planning or strategy. It definitely already looks like the grand strategy game that I need.
SaltySalamander@kbin.social 9 months ago
You already have a Trek flavored version of Stellaris. It's called New Horizons and it's been around for nearly as long as Stellaris itself has.
Kaldo@kbin.social 9 months ago
Tbf mods always feel like they are just hacking and jury-rigging existing mechanics to fit a new theme (which they, well, are). If we can get proper support for ST-specific things like the neutral zone, warp drive-based maps rather than hyperlanes, larger focus on exploration or random anomalies, it could be interesting. It wont replace stellaris for me but it I can see ST fans preferring it over a (possibly janky) mod implementation... but this is all assuming the official conversion is not just as janky and limited by the old engine ofc.
Jaysyn@kbin.social 9 months ago
It's fantastic to boot.
Stamets@startrek.website 9 months ago
I don’t play on PC
ValueSubtracted@startrek.website 9 months ago
It’s actually been a pretty good year for non-mobile Star Trek games, between this, Resurgence, and the Prodigy game, all while STO lumbers on.
Stamets@startrek.website 9 months ago
I had forgotten Resurgence even existed. It was out of my price range at release, especially given the lackluster visuals. The Prodigy game I’ve been meaning to play but I haven’t even seen Prodigy yet. Now that Paramount seems hell bent on erasing it from existence I’m not sure I should get it into it.
buckykat@hexbear.net 9 months ago
We’ve had a Trek version of Stellaris for a while in the New horizons mod