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Have you ever considered that the Prime Directive is not only not ethical, but also illogical, and perhaps morally indefensible?
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- Comment on Episode Discussion | Star Trek: Strange New Worlds | 4x05 "Level-Five Transporter Accident" 1 day ago:
It means that spock was the only character that had opportunity for development and growth, and no-one else gets to share in that.
This is true. I do think they did a fair amount with it in that respect, though, and he’s now pretty firmly on the trajectory he needs to be on to line up with his TOS characterization. And I’ll give full credit to Ethan Peck for selling his barely-restrained panic attacks (full-blown meltdowns by Vulcan standards, I’m sure).
- Comment on Episode Discussion | Star Trek: Strange New Worlds | 4x05 "Level-Five Transporter Accident" 1 day ago:
I thought the answer would have been Looney Tunes style cartoon physics. Like they can win, but so long as it’s a gag / funny. Maybe they tried doing that and it didn’t quite land.
Yeah, I think there was a degree of that in the final solution, with La’An running across the walls and making a perfect three-point landing and the like, but they didn’t quite commit to it.
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- Comment on Episode Discussion | Star Trek: Strange New Worlds | 4x04 "A Case of Chiaroscuro" 2 days ago:
Uhhhh you might want to skip tonight’s episode.
- Comment on Preview ‘Star Trek: Strange New Worlds’ Puppet Episode With 13 New Photos From “Level-Five Transporter Accident” 3 days ago:
None of the live-action series have done one, but the images have been floating around since…July 2025, I think.
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star trek is serious business
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- Comment on Episode Discussion | Star Trek: Strange New Worlds | 4x04 "A Case of Chiaroscuro" 1 week ago:
why the D7 never detected the shuttle
I think this one can be explained by the radiation - Scotty and Ortegas had to jury-rig something to track the D7, and they had the advantage of knowing it was there.
As for the stuff with Uhura and Kor…upon reflection, I think this might come up in the season finale, which seems to feature
Potential spoilers for episode 10
Some kind of time travel to proper TOS times.
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- Comment on Episode Discussion | Star Trek: Strange New Worlds | 4x04 "A Case of Chiaroscuro" 1 week ago:
I don’t really have a read on Spock, but Pike certainly seemed to sense she was holding something back. I don’t know if he actually knows what, though.
- Comment on Episode Discussion | Star Trek: Strange New Worlds | 4x04 "A Case of Chiaroscuro" 1 week ago:
One thing I forgot to mention - since the preview photos and logline were released on Monday, I’d been wondering if we might see some ridgeless Klingons, but no luck. Maybe it’s for the best, but maybe it’s a missed opportunity?
- Comment on Episode Discussion | Star Trek: Strange New Worlds | 4x04 "A Case of Chiaroscuro" 1 week ago:
Well, I thought that was quite enjoyable.
The black-and-white gimmick was well-used, and I felt it in service of the story, and not just a gimmick.
The story itself was an enjoyable noir caper, and it was fun to see Una getting her hands dirty, Uhura learning about spycraft, and M’Benga being entirely too comfortable with the whole thing. The guest cast was pretty great, too - I last saw Andy McQueen as Jesus Christ himself in “Mrs. Davis”, a show that no one seems to have watched, and it was cool to see him in a very different role here.
Demore Barnes was very compelling as Kor…but the gravitas he brought to it was so reminiscent of Michael Ansara to me, I almost wonder if he should have played Kang instead.
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- Comment on Preview ‘Star Trek: Strange New Worlds’ Film Noir Episode With 17 New Photos From “A Case of Chiaroscuro” 1 week ago:
Well, given their other mission statement of Getting the Band Together, I don’t think we’re going to be seeing less Kirk moving forward…
- Comment on Preview ‘Star Trek: Strange New Worlds’ Film Noir Episode With 17 New Photos From “A Case of Chiaroscuro” 1 week ago:
I know people are sort of tossing the season premiere into the “gimmick” bucket due to the nature of the time travel story, but it seemed like a pretty standard episode of Trek to me.
Genre trapping aside, I’m actually pretty intrigued by the logline for this one:
Una is mistaken for a resistance leader and drawn into a struggle against Klingon occupation.
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We all know what happened when Jim Kirk went to the movies.
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- Comment on 2 weeks ago:
Well yeah, my understanding of the Maquis’ formation of an armed resistance must definitely shouldn’t be taken as an endorsement of everything they did.
What was the question again?
All we wanted to know was whether a hot dog is a sandwich…
- Comment on 2 weeks ago:
if they have specific details they hammered out with these descendants of native americans, I don’t thing was specified in the episode.
There was an agreement made with Gul Evek - as you said, for them to be under Cardassian jurisdiction, if not full citizens:
PICARD: Anthwara, I want to make absolutely sure that you understand the implications of this agreement. By giving up your status as Federation citizens, any future request you or your people make to Starfleet will go unanswered. You will be on your own and under Cardassian jurisdiction.
ANTHWARA: I understand, Captain. And we are prepared to take that risk. Will the Cardassian government honour your agreement here?
GUL EVEK: I believe I can convince them that this is an equitable solution. I cannot speak for every Cardassian you may encounter, but if you leave us alone I suspect that we will do the same. Will this be acceptable to the Starfleet Command?
PICARD: It will not be easy, but with Admiral Necheyev’s support, I think they will go along with it in the end.
However, that’s not the way things went down:
HUDSON: I knew him. Bill Samuels was a farmer. He cultivated his land for twenty years. He raised two kids on that land. He made something out of that land and the Federation told him he had to give it all up to the Cardassians. Well, he just was not willing to do that.
SISKO: And it was people like him who made both sides realise that some accommodation had to be made for the colonies so they could stay.
HUDSON: The Cardassians have no intention of allowing these people to stay. They will either force them out or they will kill them. It’s already started. Not a day goes when there’s not some random act of violence against our people. Every Federation colonist knows you do not go out alone at night. Can you imagine living in that kind of fear?
SISKO: If you’re saying the Cardassian authorities are not enforcing the laws, we can-
HUDSON: Enforcing the laws? The Cardassian authorities were part of a mob that stoned two colonists on the streets of Ropal City three days ago.
SISKO: That’s something the Federation can take up with the Cardassians at the highest level.
HUDSON: Well, that will help a lot. The word is the Cardassian High Command is arming their colonists to the teeth.
Those are the events that led to the Maquis as a resistance movement - before that, there were no Maquis, just colonists who stayed behind.
- Comment on 2 weeks ago:
You really want to split hairs about the fine details of fake politics?
It’s sort of the point of the thread, so it seems a little odd to suddenly try to make it sound silly.
My interpretation of the events is that eventually the butt of a Cardassian rifle is going to welcome it’s new home in the heads of one of these native american settlers, and they are going to lament their choices.
This interpretation is completely correct, but it sidesteps the two fundamental questions.
Do the colonists have the right to refuse to leave (I think you’ve made your position in that clear), and if so, do they have the right to defend themselves when the Cardassians violate the terms that they agreed to and tried to drive them off those worlds?
- Comment on 2 weeks ago:
you set up base there about 20 years ago
For the sake of argument, how many years is the cutoff that flips it from “fine” to “evil”?
you will get more than handsomely rewarded with an equal or bigger piece of land on a different planet and not be inconvenienced
Citation needed? I don’t think that was ever stated, and “Journey’s End” is actually pretty clear about a new home having not even been identified.
it is to stop an interplanetary war.
The Federation and the Cardassians were not at war when the treaty was signed…
- Comment on 2 weeks ago:
Get the colonisers (which is what these fucking people are) to go there.
You could say the exact same thing about the Cardassians.
I don’t see any good way to fill in the blank where “forced relocation is fine when _____” is the sentence.
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- Comment on Episode Discussion | Star Trek: Strange New Worlds | 4x03 "Human Best Friend" 2 weeks ago:
His middle finger on his right hand was amputated, but he didn’t have a prosthetic as far as I know - he just strategically positioned his hand so the camera couldn’t see it.
He did a pretty good job, but there are occasional moments where it’s noticeable.
I don’t know if the scene in this episode was an intentional nod to that, but I thought of it, as well.
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