Submitted 2 months ago by problematicPanther@lemmy.world to [deleted]
Let’s face it, the dems don’t care about the commoners, the republicans are actually pure evil, everyone was happy when that shitstain CEO got shot.
Maybe we should build on this momentum we have to drive actual change at the political level.
my first act as president in 2029 would be to issue a full and unconditional pardon of billionaire killers.
Third parties don’t work. Support progressive and progressives only in the Democratic Party.
fuck the democratic party. they’ve failed us, it’s time to bury the corpse.
It would be more effective to focus on supporting a progressive candidate for the DNC chair. The prospect of establishing a viable third party is extremely challenging, given the existence of nearly 20 “progressive” third parties that have struggled to gain traction. As someone who served as the chair for the Ohio Green Party, and was a platform builder for an already defunct progressive party, I have firsthand experience with the obstacles such efforts face. I’ve learned from my mistakes. The Progressive Caucus, Justice Democrats, Working Families Party, and more are great organizations to organize with. AIPAC out-funded progressives, but now people know that AIPAC is the reason the Democratic Party is terrible, and now volunteer and donation signups for progressive orgs have raised.
Yeah sure, so they can rig their primaries again.
Again, that is why we need to push for the DNC chair to be a progressive.
Since criminals can be president now, I think Joe Exotic should be president. Make America exotic again!
People don’t want to empower the workers and take away money and power from billionaires. Bernie Sanders already tried this but it’s not how America works and what Americans want.
With the current system, every new party will take away votes from the party it’s closest to. This ensures more voting percentage for the opponents. So when you create a socialist party, most of the votes you will get will be from democrats who won’t vote for the democratic party, so it’s easier for the Republicans to win. You just helped the opposite side.
Maybe when you create a party close to the Republicans you can steal their voters so the democrats have a higher chance of winning. Maybe do the same within the democrats to scatter their votes in a way so Bernie will get the majority.
Yes because the Dems are basically suckups to the rich, just less fascist.
Yes.
Come and join us, friend. I’m calling it the shit-back movement.
It’ll take some work and we’ll have to outline so very extremely many stances.
Well I think the real question should be, why isn’t the democratic party being sued for preventing other political parties from presenting themselves…
The issue is that with a two party system it permits bit sides to take its population for granted… No real competition
You say 2 partes. I only ser one.
Fair enough
I personally like the idea of a real third party. But I think focusing on eat the rich won’t have enough draw, and will push potential supporters away. I think the focus should be more on government FOR the people. It’s similar, but wider in scope. Trump is doing america first… how about people first as the focal point.
doesnt have to be just one, have many. doesnt even have to be tons of people, just 2 trying to actively do things is something.
We should not. This idea of starting a new party to do something has been exhaustively understood for a long time. All it is capable of doing is hurting the major party your new party is closest to. Best explained here.
It is exciting to create something new you have total control over, and that excitement can help you get off the ground and feel like you’re going somewhere, but this is an illusion, an eventually that momentum slams into a wall as you realize you’ve only shifted de facto political reality in the United States in the opposite direction you wanted to (again: because all third parties can do is steal votes from their most closely aligned major party).
Bernie Sanders has had this figured out for a long time. He shits on the rich morning and night. He’s also a grownup and knows that his only viable course is to try to shift one of the major parties themselves. He thinks he has better odds with the Democrats, and he’s probably right, though maybe “less bad odds” is a better characterization.
Entering into a major party is not fun and exciting and you don’t have a lot of control and quick momentum. But it is the only way. Small progress, long game. A flash in the pan 3rd party will only burn you.
I think it would take a massive, earth-shaking event for any other major party to be formed in the US. I understand that ballot access in most states is an extremely high barrier that blocks anyone except the major parties. Of course, the two major parties made sure to make it that way.
You mean like the German die partei party?
AyuTsukasa@lemm.ee 2 months ago
I’m part of the forward party if you wanna check it out.