[Discussion thread] Joker - Folie à deux

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• inlandempire@jlai.lu ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Just came back from it, I regret sleeping on La La Land, because had I watched it, I would have skipped Joker 2

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  • MimicJar@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Because of the musicals? It had a few numbers but I didn’t feel like it dominated.

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  • Blaze@sopuli.xyz ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Thanks for sharing!

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• Krauerking@lemy.lol ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Disjointed mess that you can expect from a writing session based around a singer, an actor, and a director, that hated their original movie’s audience, scribbling on napkins, to make.

  It feels like the producers told them it still had to be a joker film and that’s where you get the makeup and action set pieces from but they get ignored every time for excuses that are basically “because we shouldn’t tell this story, we think, we will sorta berate you, and give you no reason to watch this as it’s all fake”

  I just realized it’s still a rip off of Scorsese and like a literal reverse of "Shutter Island"

  Tap for spoiler

  Oh man you thought he was a detective the Joker the whole time? No he’s just a crazy person who is miserable, and the real villain is guilt a different joker.

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  • keyez@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Your spoiler section is missing the point which is what the movie was showing and that’s rather funny.

    ::: spoiler Tap for spoiler There never was another joker or another personality. The whole point of this movie is Arthur thought he found a community and someone who loved him for the mess that he was but everyone only wanted the other Joker to start a movement or light the world on fire and in this world nobody gets what they want. ::

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• murmelade@lemmy.ml ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

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  • anzo@programming.dev ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I loved the end!

    Spoiler

    It was open. Did you see how the “other guy” behind opens his smile with the knife? To me, that detail, meant like yeah now every crazy person will be ‘the’ joker. But I’d rather think he just survived. I think it’s the main interpretation.

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    • keyez@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I didn’t notice that detail

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      I thought he was slitting his throat not cutting his mouth that is a really good detail. Makes sense in that universe where there are no super and larger than life hero’s. Though I kind of wish instead they ended this movie with the explosion and could have a third with more Harley/Lady Gaga than what they gave her to work with in this film

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  • Blaze@sopuli.xyz ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Thanks for sharing

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• DoucheBagMcSwag@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I hate to see dead threads so I’ll start… critics said it was… Boring… Is that true?

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  • MimicJar@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    It’s only boring because it doesn’t really go anywhere.

    I was intrigued with the first half of so, but the film does a flip near the end that just takes the film ultimately nowhere.

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  • anzo@programming.dev ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Not boring, just somewhat lengthy. To be fair, I barely noticed it’s length, until a moment …when it seems to be the end, but then well, no, that wasn’t the end. Movie continues :P

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  • Blaze@sopuli.xyz ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Curious too, let’s see what other people say

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    • grapesins@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I found that I felt the length with this one, where I didn’t with the first.

      Also I feel like it wasn’t a Joker movie at all, but like mentioned, a psychological drama exploration of mental illness of this man Arthur Fleck. And with it supposed to be a Joker movie, many parts of it annoyed the hell out of me - I kept saying, “that’s not the Joker!!”

      Turns out I was right, supposedly the director wanted to make the first movie but it didn’t get accepted until they tweaked it to add the Joker IP into the character

      Taking away that lens, I enjoyed it significantly more

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