Submitted 1 year ago by LollerCorleone@kbin.social to moviesandtv@lemmy.film
For the past decade, Disney has been the Teflon movie studio, remarkably adept at withstanding the tectonic changes impacting the film industry, and well fortified by its arsenal of key properties such as Marvel, Lucasfilm and Pixar.
But this year, the long-reigning titan of the box office has shown cracks as four of its biggest releases from those brands and others have struggled in theaters..
I feel Disney has been going downhill ever since they made their first move to buy up other companies and their subsequent decision to milk every IP dry regardless of quality.
This is what happens when you hand over the reigns to marketing MBAs instead of actual artists and filmmakers.
The Boeing effect
The booing effect
100% true.
Disney Pixar’s animations are no longer the ones to watch like their time before Toy Story 3. Look at the Pinocchio showdown they had with Netflix. Absolute polar opposite. And now Nimona is Netflix’s latest great hit after they picked it up from Disney’s scrap pile because it’s too gay for Disney.
Pinnoccio was Disney proper though, not Pixar. But I get what you’re saying. Del Toro’s version was far better.
I thought Turning Red was amazing. But that has been an outlier for Pixar lately.
I wish they’d stop rehashing their back catalogue. I don’t particularly want to watch paint by numbers movies.
Geek_King@lemmy.world 1 year ago
I feel that Disney is very much a bad thing for the entertainment industry. They own so many huge IPs and have proven that they by and large, can’t actually make good use of them. Just look at what they did to Star Wars movie wise. It makes me wonder how a monopoly is actually defined.
I wish they’d get broken up into smaller companies to help fix the entertainment industry.
notun@lemmy.world 1 year ago
My biggest gripe is how everything needs to be connected to each other. I noped out of MCU after Endgame, really don’t want to get suckered into another “phase” or whatever they call them. Too many shows, too many movies, and most of it is not interesting at all.
BraveSirZaphod@kbin.social 1 year ago
Yeah, I had a fun ride with the MCU up til Endgame, and genuinely enjoyed that, but at this point, I'm just tired.
snooggums@kbin.social 1 year ago
They were always connected, but how they were connected has changed a lot.
Iron Man had a post credits scene. The Winter Soldier had Black Panther a core part of the plot. Stark had a lot of cross movie connections that didn't overstay their welcome.
After Endgame the crossovers are mostly junk. Guardians in Thor 3 was a lame follow up to the going out together because it was a summary and one scene, not core to the plot of the movie which could have been neat. Several were not memorable and were just exposition that the movie's characters could have handled on their own. It is more of an overall hit the plot points and move on as scripts instead of each scene being its own thing ad part of a bigger whole.
On top of that the overuse of green screen settings, quips from every character, and the overuse of world ending threats in almost every movie and series has made most of the movies bland. Yeah, early on they had a few duds but now they are mostly duds with a few gems and it feels like that is the result of trying to rush so much out at once while trying to connect them all at the same time.
blivet@kbin.social 1 year ago
Also, they've really doubled down on the interconnectivity. You used to be able to follow the main arc without difficulty if you saw most of the movies, but now you have to watch absolutely everything including the TV shows or you have no idea what's going on.
HubertManne@kbin.social 1 year ago
I agree. Honestly its not just disney. Not much is worth watching much less paying to watch.
LollerCorleone@kbin.social 1 year ago
Here is a visualisation showing just how big Disney (I can't spot a couple of companies that I know are owned by Disney in this, so the list is actually even bigger).
A map of Disney's worldwide assets
Geek_King@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Damn it, that’s insane. I knew they were huge, but I had no idea the scope of their holdings! Someone print out a huge poster of that graphic and show congress or whoever needs to decide that they’re faaaaar too large and are negatively impacting many industries.
lolpostslol@kbin.social 1 year ago
There’s no way this shit is tax optimal, so many companies with super-specific purposes… unless it’s all to trigger specific tax regimes. Maybe they should simplify the corporate structure instead of axing creative staff they clearly need
_Rho_@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Reminds me of the Walt Disney ERB lines:
“I’m the Disney landlord of your intellectual property”
LollerCorleone@kbin.social 1 year ago
They are definitely too big at this point.
Cylusthevirus@kbin.social 1 year ago
There should really be a cap on the percentage of a national (or the global) economy that a single company can directly influence. Otherwise they get too big, start doing hellish stuff, and it's very difficult for consumers to respond to their choices. If every choice in an aisle at the store is owned by like 3 companies, that's a problem.