Just found out that "pain" is racist. Anyone still trust Big Pharma?

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• marcos@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  I remember reading about race bias in pain treatment. It’s something about how doctors trust people from disfavored population less, and tend to give them less effective pain killers… like Advil.

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  • Shadow@lemmy.ca ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Yes it’s a significant issue.

    www.aamc.org/…/how-we-fail-black-patients-pain

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  • Mickey7@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    If what you said is true then the doctors involved are unethical assholes

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    • wintermute_oregon@lemm.ee ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      It isn’t a question of ethics. It is an issue with training.

      When I went to medical school, we were told to watch out for black patients who were drug-seeking. Really, they should have excluded the race from the topic and focused on drug seekers.

      While I was not taught this, it was believed that black people experienced less pain but were more likely to seek opioids. As such, that builds an unconscious bias towards black patients.

      It is why I posted an article about unconscious bias and medical training.

      It isn’t that pain is racist, it is we have bad stereotypes and myths that have infiltrated our medical system.

      Back in school, if I were to prescribe an opioid (And this is back when I could hand them out like candy), nobody would double-check my work on a white patient. If it was a black patient, someone would always come to inspect the patient and often deny my recommendation.

      Heart attacks were another bias that infiltrated the medical system.

      Now, for Advil, this is just a marketing campaign, and it’s stupid, but as a critique of the medical system, it is valid.

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    • Shadow@lemmy.ca ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Many people are unethical assholes. Doctors are people. Going to med school does not automatically make you a good person.

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    • Dkarma@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      You could have just said conservatives instead of unethical assholes.

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    • marcos@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      People are more complicated than that.

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• PeepinGoodArgs@reddthat.com ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  But then you remember that we now live in Clown World and anything is possible.

  Well that’s because you genuinely believe that pain, the physiological phenomenon itself, is racist, rather than the social institutions around treating it. You’re the problem.

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• breadsmasher@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Racial bias in pain assessment and treatment recommendations, and false beliefs about biological differences between blacks and whites

  Taking Black Pain Seriously

  Black Americans are Systematically Under-Treated for Pain. Why?

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• TORFdot0@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  I don’t like socialism. I don’t think we can tax ourselves into prosperity and for the most part disagree with the heavy handed approaches to social justice and welfare that is typically popular on the fediverse. I even find it excessive how a lot of people obsessed with social justice find racism in places where it really isn’t there.

  But why is it that we can’t just stop being assholes for 5 minutes? Why does this have to be a politically contentious post? How would you feel if your grandmother or your child was in pain in the hospital and the nurses or doctor didn’t take their concerns seriously? How would it make you feel if someone you loved was going through unnecessary pain? How would it make you feel to have your concerns dismissed like this?

  Advil isn’t saying that doctors are racist or that white people are hogging all the pain killers for themselves. It sees a concerning trend in the standards of care between different groups and is trying to do something meaningful to change it. Why are we so concerned with our political identity that getting people the medicine that they need turns into an attempt to dismiss concerns and “dunk on libs”?

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• uzi@lemmy.ca ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  If you truly want to discuss big pharma, are people finally ready to admit that they regret getting multiple injections, admit that they believed a lie so Big Pharma and members of government could make $100 Billion, and start listening to people who have never had any injections? Will people listen to Bill Gates talk about “we can reduce the population through vaccines”?

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  • pezmaker@sh.itjust.works ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Zero regrets and I’ll get another booster with my flu shot next year. You’re conflating so many different things and bonding them with conspiracy to lock it all together.

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  • wintermute_oregon@lemm.ee ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I don’t regret getting vaccinated. While it was not as effective as hoped, it was still effective. Thank Trump for making the impossible happen.

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    • uzi@lemmy.ca ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Are you willing be best friends with someone has never had any kind of injections? Do you ask random people during a conversation if they have it?

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• ButWaitTheresMore@sh.itjust.works ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  How is this pro-conservative or anti-left? It’s just racist

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• Mickey7@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  I’m going to organize a protest march themed “Black Pain Matters”

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  • Nudding@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    No you’re not. You couldn’t organize the alphabet. You’re too busy screeching about stuff that doesn’t even affect you.

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