This told me nothing I didn’t already know. Like I said, he was a dickhead. But “evil” requires a level of maliciousness that transcends the people you are in physical contact with, imo – you have to be actively striving to make life worse for at least a few thousand people.
A dickhead and a shitty father, sure. But “evil” would require him to have done something much worse than just treat his kid and the people in his immediate orbit like shit. Just my opinion.
evil requires a level of maliciousness that transcends the people you are in physical contact with, imo
That’s a very strange definition. He also led moving manufacturing to China. You may have heard of the suicide nets they had to put up in their facilities.
as someone else pointed out, your definition of evil is quite interesting in that a qualification is that it goes past people they are in physical proximity to.
not sure where you got that, seems a little comic-book-y… how about a nurse in a hospital that slowly poisons a child, watching doctors be baffled and see the parents fall apart with unspeakable grief because she likes the drama and was bored. not evil?
I tend to agree. Being a narcissistic asshole isn’t the same as being evil. In the first case, it means doing bad things because you are self centered and have no regard for other people. The bad things aren’t done to hurt others, just to in a self serving way. Being evil requires an intent to do harm.
I’ve never understood why it’s just Apple that seems to get the blame for using Foxconn, they’re estimated to make 40% of all consumer electronics. Nintendo uses them for all their consoles (since the GameCube), Sony use them for their hardware (TVs, the PlayStation, etc.), MS for the Xbox, Amazon for the Kindles, Google for the Pixels, etc.
I don’t want this to sound like whataboutism, but I’ve just literally never understood why people seemingly overlook all the other companies using them to place the blame solely on Apple.
archonet@lemy.lol 2 months ago
This told me nothing I didn’t already know. Like I said, he was a dickhead. But “evil” requires a level of maliciousness that transcends the people you are in physical contact with, imo – you have to be actively striving to make life worse for at least a few thousand people.
A dickhead and a shitty father, sure. But “evil” would require him to have done something much worse than just treat his kid and the people in his immediate orbit like shit. Just my opinion.
Draces@lemmy.world 2 months ago
That’s a very strange definition. He also led moving manufacturing to China. You may have heard of the suicide nets they had to put up in their facilities.
archonet@lemy.lol 2 months ago
ah, see, now that’s more like it.
JudahBenHur@lemm.ee 2 months ago
that’ll do it for you, eh?
as someone else pointed out, your definition of evil is quite interesting in that a qualification is that it goes past people they are in physical proximity to.
not sure where you got that, seems a little comic-book-y… how about a nurse in a hospital that slowly poisons a child, watching doctors be baffled and see the parents fall apart with unspeakable grief because she likes the drama and was bored. not evil?
tibi@lemmy.world 2 months ago
I tend to agree. Being a narcissistic asshole isn’t the same as being evil. In the first case, it means doing bad things because you are self centered and have no regard for other people. The bad things aren’t done to hurt others, just to in a self serving way. Being evil requires an intent to do harm.
The_Decryptor@aussie.zone 2 months ago
I’ve never understood why it’s just Apple that seems to get the blame for using Foxconn, they’re estimated to make 40% of all consumer electronics. Nintendo uses them for all their consoles (since the GameCube), Sony use them for their hardware (TVs, the PlayStation, etc.), MS for the Xbox, Amazon for the Kindles, Google for the Pixels, etc.
I don’t want this to sound like whataboutism, but I’ve just literally never understood why people seemingly overlook all the other companies using them to place the blame solely on Apple.
steventhedev@lemmy.world 2 months ago
He was the ringleader of an illegal anti-poaching agreement between tech companies that kept worker salaries down.
He’s the root cause of much of what is broken with modern tech hiring. Bill gates is responsible for the other half (trick questions, etc)
Prandom_returns@lemm.ee 2 months ago
“Genuinely asking”