Comment on Saint Luigi

theacharnian@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

• cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  massachusetts did it and it works great; not as good as single payer, sure, but better than the alternative.

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  • Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Is this a reference to Romneycare or did they improve upon that?

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    • cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      that’s a bit of a misnomer since it was passed by the overwhelmingly democratic statehouse while romney fought it the entire time

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      • Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        Sorry, I italicized it now. Anyone who uses that name, uses it in jest. The funniest part was during the ACA thing and him acting clueless.

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• UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  Democrats. End First Past The Post voting. Introduce competition into the electoral process. FREE voters ability to choose.

  But I guess that isn’t profitable enough for some.

  Nothing lasts forever…

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  • theacharnian@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    These sound like commitments you guys should be asking of the Democrats.

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    • Bacano@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      They’ve been asked. Request was denied.

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    • Serinus@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      It’s certainly harder to do on a state level. There is no inter-state border control. Doing single payer on a state level is likely to bring in the worst cases from at least neighboring states.

      California might do it, but they have a few big advantages. First, their population is high enough that they can absorb a little cross state immigration without hitting the balance too hard. Second, the states near them tend to be more sparsely populated, unlike the east coast.

      Basically you’re looking at only California and New York if you want to do it on a state level. And they’re both going to face huge lobbying against it.

      If this is something you want to get done, it’s got to have a lot of public support. And if you’re able to gather that much public support, why not just do it federally? It works better that way anyway.

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      • Rekorse@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        Cause the whole point is that we can’t do anything federally but can at the state level.

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• Dragon@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  Capital flight.

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  • theacharnian@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Out of California, New York, Massachusetts? Lol, yea right.

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    • Dragon@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Maybe. It’s worth trying.

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  • ChairmanMeow@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Why? UHC is cheaper than the current system. You wouldn’t need any extra taxes.

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    • TheRagingGeek@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Really shows me how traumatized I am by United Health Care when I see UHC and it immediately brings them to mind and not Universal. I had to put in some work to understand that Acronym

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    • Dragon@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      It’s only cheaper if you consider current healthcare costs. It would require tax increases, and under current progressive tax models, those would be disproportionately high for the upper class, for whom the increase would not offset the elimination of their healthcare premium.

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      • ChairmanMeow@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        No, the sum of all premiums paid by all Americans is way more than is required. You could make it a flat tax and it’d still be cheaper.

        The tax increase is more than offset by the cost of premiums.

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      • TheRagingGeek@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        Yeah we need to deflate the disproportionately high pricing of the health care caused by insurance as well, if we could get it at the national level we could eliminate a lot of the back office overhead, and then maybe negotiate a revisit of the master charge list so that Tylenol in hospital isn’t something crazy like $250 dollars a dose. State by state this would probably be much more difficult.

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  • Dozzi92@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Yeah, Jersey is nicely blued, but beholden to big pharma, and I think messing with healthcare hits too close to home. Governor race is next year though and so hopefully this issue stays hot.

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• regdog@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  “Nothing” you say?

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  • theacharnian@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Like, no Republicans…

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• vga@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  I could be wrong, but it seems to me that decision-makers all over the planet are absolutely horrified at the idea of making any sweeping changes whatsover to health care system. Because they fear the very real possibility that they will cause masses of deaths due to complications during the transition and then that will be their legacy.

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  • Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    The healthcare doesn’t need to change. Just how it is funded.

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