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• daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Probably also using computers. And I’ve heard that CEO drink water too.

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  • iAmTheTot@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I don’t have a problem with the concept of generative AI my guy. What you call “primitivism” I call having an ethical issue with basically everything surrounding how it’s done right now.

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    • daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      We live in a capitalist word. Almost every use of every technology is unethical.

      But people hold a special grudge against AI.

      Same example as before. Is United Healthcare use AI for denying treatment it got pointed out. If they used a JavaScript and traditional algorithms to do so, it’s not the technology which we point out, don’t we?

      If AI is forced in windows 11 by Microsoft, it’s pointed out. But if they force Teams, we don’t hate communication applications, don’t we? We don’t say that communication applications are bad and unethical. Even if most of them are as property of big tech as AI is.

      Now the question is, why AI is getting this special treatment?

      In order to get the answer I traces where the hated started. There was AI before. And the first by jump in generative AI was not hated, quite the contrary it got plenty of praise. But then Image generation came… And it rubbed artist the wrong way, thus the anti-AI movement started.

      Also I looked for other correlations with people against AI. And I found that they tend to be against any new technology from the last 5-10 years or so.

      So that’s how I found the answer of that question. Just looking at the origins and looking at who had those opinions.

      I have found that the genesis of most things is the key to really understand them. And this genesis really explains why if an AI takes workers jobs it’s hates and pointed out, but if a python script does the same it’s not.

      I’m an open minded person. If I get a better answer to that question that bugs me, I would reconsider my position. But I’m yet to read any rational answer on:

      Why AI gets a special treatment on its unethical uses when compared with any other technology also being unethically used by corporations and capitalism?

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      • iAmTheTot@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        You’ve got a particular worldview that I’m not interested in engaging with. Happy holidays.

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      • fakir@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        You are correct, AI is getting a lot of flack for unethical behavior, when unethical behavior is inherent to the neo capitalist mindset.

        And primitivism is obviously on the rise too, which is represented by the rise in individualism, nationalism, fascism worldwide.

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    • intensely_human@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      what do you see as the difference between a person seeing your work, Ingesting it into their brain to reprogram their brain, allowing them to make parallel works, and an AI ingesting your work as part of its training data?

      Our current IP laws prohibit making money on exact copies of your work. That is not what AI does.

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      • iAmTheTot@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

        The person.

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• drmoose@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  This is such a stretch. AI used to deny claims and video animation AI are so far apart that you might as well be talking about these two things using the same electrons 🙄

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  • iAmTheTot@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Well, I disagree. They may be trained on different data sets but both represent the same ethical problems with generative AI right now, imho.

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    • drmoose@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      Clearly you don’t even know what AI means and just parrot whatever meme you hear. What ethical issues? You’re comparing copyright theft to what? Using machine learning to decide whether insurance claim should be accepted? These aren’t even the same realm of computing and as close as a calculator is to Candy Crush.

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      • iAmTheTot@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

        So, you don’t think there’s ethical issues with letting machine learning who lives and dies? When did I say they were the exact same technology? Do not assume what I do and do not know based on things I did not say, my friend.

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