From his twitter my impression is that Mangione is one of those weirdly pro-AI people, if anything
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iAmTheTot@sh.itjust.works 6 months ago
Very ironic imho to use AI to celebrate this guy.
MBM@lemmings.world 6 months ago
daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 months ago
Why?
Anti-AI is a small primitivism and/or IP protection movement.
It has nothing to do with the working class struggle. Or the right to have proper healthcare.
You would be surprised that most people who cares about improving the rights of the working class does not have actually any beef with AI. At most we want to open source it as we want to open source every technology.
iAmTheTot@sh.itjust.works 6 months ago
United Healthcare was using AI to deny claims.
Also saying AI has nothing to do with the working class struggle is hilarious.
daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 months ago
Probably also using computers. And I’ve heard that CEO drink water too.
iAmTheTot@sh.itjust.works 6 months ago
I don’t have a problem with the concept of generative AI my guy. What you call “primitivism” I call having an ethical issue with basically everything surrounding how it’s done right now.
drmoose@lemmy.world 6 months ago
This is such a stretch. AI used to deny claims and video animation AI are so far apart that you might as well be talking about these two things using the same electrons 🙄
iAmTheTot@sh.itjust.works 6 months ago
Well, I disagree. They may be trained on different data sets but both represent the same ethical problems with generative AI right now, imho.
modifier@lemmy.ca 6 months ago
If you think it has nothing to do with the working class struggle you need to go back to square one and begin again. There isn’t much that isn’t impacted by the rise of AI.
daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 months ago
I wont take lessons of primitivists, sorry.
People against technological advancements are against the progress of the working class.
The only chance for people to live good is to delegate a great amount of work to the machines. That’s just it.
If you think that primitivism is the answer and got fooled by the anti-AI movement you should be going back to square one. Start reading the basics until you learn thar technological progress is not the problem, human greediness and capitalism is.
Saryn@lemmy.world 6 months ago
You’re tilting at windmills. It’s not about rejecting technological advancement. It’s about ensuring its fairness and accessability.
Yes, technology can be (and is) used for social good. It can also be (and is) used to opress and supress. What’s more both dynamics are happening at the same time. The world isn’t black-and-white. The human condition is complex.
Kolanaki@yiffit.net 6 months ago
If you think that what is being called “AI” right now is actually a useful tool for the working class: You’re fucking delusional.
drmoose@lemmy.world 6 months ago
It’s incredible how successfully AI topic has been hijacked.
Copyright is bad, period. Barking at AI for using copyrighted shit for training just makes it less accessible to train for anyone BUT the mega rich.
I genuinely don’t understand the though process of these people. We want information to be free and accessible to everyone, no?
Starbuncle@lemmy.ca 6 months ago
IMO it should be illegal to monetize things made by AI trained on copyrighted material unless you also make the model open source and freely available for download. That doesn’t stifle innovation.
drmoose@lemmy.world 6 months ago
I think that’s a fair take though the world is allergic to “open source” being a part of our government. I mean, we can’t even open source government projects paid by citizens in most countries so introducing open source as part of our governing process is basically impossible.