….so? How many killers before him have written a manifesto? Are all these school shooters, attacking actual public schools, being charged with terrorism? They’re actually striking out at “the system.”
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lud@lemm.ee 17 hours agoI mean he wrote words on bullets (or casings, I dunno) and a manifesto…
TheFriar@lemm.ee 15 hours ago
lud@lemm.ee 15 hours ago
It happens occasionally:
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 14 hours ago
Are all these school shooters, attacking actual public schools, being charged with terrorism?
There’s little need to up-charge school shooters. Many of them are killed on sight. Those that are captured (Dylan Roof, for instance) get life without parole or the death sentence.
But in NYC, a single murder without a terrorist motive only gets you to 2nd Degree Murder. That means you’ll be out in 15 years. The “terrorism” addendum is necessary for life without parole sentencing.
captainlezbian@lemmy.world 14 hours ago
Yes, but the charges should fit the crime not be selected to ensure the desired outcome
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 13 hours ago
There is no objective measure of criminal conduct. It’s all malleable. Prosecutors and judges and juries ultimately make these decisions case-by-case. And the results can be heavily weighted by wealthy, socially influential private interests who want to see an example made of a particularly offensive or terrifying individual.
LandedGentry@lemmy.zip 15 hours ago
American soldiers regularly painted imagery and words on the bombs and vehicles they use to kill people. Are they terrorists too?
Jyek@sh.itjust.works 14 hours ago
The military is political. It is literally policy when the military moves. Anything any military does is dictionary terrorism. But terrorism is a nasty word for it so we don’t call it that.
LandedGentry@lemmy.zip 14 hours ago
Makes sense
lud@lemm.ee 15 hours ago
In some instances, absolutely.
LandedGentry@lemmy.zip 15 hours ago
I mean I’d agree lol but I doubt this person equates Luigi and the average American soldier painting a bomb. That’s my point
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 14 hours ago
I mean, yes. But folks here aren’t ready for that conversation
LandedGentry@lemmy.zip 14 hours ago
Don’t worry I agree lol
bitjunkie@lemmy.world 12 hours ago
Yes
LandedGentry@lemmy.zip 12 hours ago
sigh yes you’re the third or fourth person to make this joke. Yes I agree.
The point is that nobody calls them terrorists for doing that. Putting words or art on weapons and ammo is considered “normal” as twisted as that is. So Luigi’s doing it does not make him a terrorist.
bitjunkie@lemmy.world 9 hours ago
Yeah I mean it’s obviously trumped-up bullshit in his case, they’re making a point of throwing the book at him any way they can because the owners got their jimmies rustled