Comment on The torque better not be too strong with this one

FringeTheory999@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

• someguy3@lemmy.ca ⁨6⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  They strip like a mf.

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• Excrubulent@slrpnk.net ⁨6⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  This is a bit of a pet peeve of mine - it’s designed purely for automation. That’s why it’s tapered, to allow power tools to slip out before they break. That’s good for automation in the 30s, not so good for hand tools or any modern tool with a torque limiter.

  You’re much better off with hex or torx, or even the square driver, which is much more tolerant of imperfect handheld tool usage.

  The only reason phillips is still used is because it’s ubiquitous, it’s very much a historical oddity. It’s okay for many tasks but unfortunately the slipping out behaviour destroys the screws after a while.

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  • Croquette@sh.itjust.works ⁨6⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    A good balled hex driver is such a joy to use. Somewhat align it with the screw, and you can use it at weird angle.

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    • Excrubulent@slrpnk.net ⁨6⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      I prefer to only use them when I can’t get alignment. They’re far more likely to round out the head in my experience, but they have their uses.

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      • Croquette@sh.itjust.works ⁨6⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        Maybe I didn’t use them enough yet, but I bought some Wiha balled hex driver and I haven’t stripped a screw yet, and I use cheap screws.

        I also had to dismantle my 3d printer hot end with a lot of weirdly placed screws and it wasn’t even an issue.

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• felykiosa@sh.itjust.works ⁨6⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  If you have ever used torx once in your life you can’t say that Philip is great anymore.

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  • _bcron@midwest.social ⁨6⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Torx is cool and all but all the touted virtues such as less cam-out go out the window if you have to drive them in at wonky angles, like tight fitting spaces. If you gotta angle the driver it’s not gonna seat well at all, apt to jump and wear out your bit. And if your only T20 rolls away and falls under a deck, yuck, 10mm problems.

    Phillips has a place and that place is ‘a wonky place to hold a power drill’. That said I’m a huge fan of square head because it’s a happy medium between those two

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    • MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Your szenario only works well with Pozidriv Image Phillips slip too.

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    • felykiosa@sh.itjust.works ⁨6⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      I have used torx in weird angle with less issue than Phillips . My heart is fully sold to torx and Allen keys ❤️

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• Kecessa@sh.itjust.works ⁨6⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Because it’s a fucking stupid design! Fuck Phillips, long live Robertson!

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