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• madthumbs@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Unions only help themselves. If you failed at negotiating; you over value yourself.

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  • Olgratin_Magmatoe@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Unions only help themselves.

    That’s utter bullshit.

    afscme.org/…/the-union-difference-in-wages-18-hig…

    cnbc.com/…/labor-unions-winning-better-pay-hours.…

    nber.org/…/new-evidence-unions-raise-wages-less-s…

    bloomberg.com/…/us-union-members-see-record-pay-r…

    axios.com/…/union-workers-wealth-comparison-pay-d…

    epi.org/…/union-workers-had-more-job-security-dur…

    southfloridaclc.org/…/unions-and-job-security-a-l…

    www.dol.gov/sites/…/WORK-fs-DOL-Unions-v6.pdf

    www.bls.gov/…/employee-access-to-sick-leave.htm

    bls.gov/…/union-workers-more-likely-than-nonunion…

    They lead to higher wages, job security, better benefits, and better PTO/sick days. In every respect, in general, a union job is better for the worker than a non union job.

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    • madthumbs@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      They lead to higher wages

      They lead to companies being forced to keep horrible employees that cost them money and pay them more than they’d otherwise need to. You could have negotiated better pay for yourself, but you want to keep leech employees around. They also can cause the closure of businesses (the opposite of job security). Sick time shouldn’t be a thing. No one should be incentivized to call in sick, and that costs the company money which again comes out of what you could have negotiated for yourself.

      Posting a bunch of union propaganda doesn’t change the fact that they only serve themselves.

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      • Olgratin_Magmatoe@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        They lead to companies being forced to keep horrible employees that cost them money

        I don’t care.

        and pay them more than they’d otherwise need to.

        Good, that’s the fucking point.

        You could have negotiated better pay for yourself

        You can’t, which is why unions have higher pay.

        Sick time shouldn’t be a thing. No one should be incentivized to call in sick, and that costs the company money

        Are you a troll, or are you genuinely this backwards?

        Posting a bunch of union propaganda doesn’t change the fact that they only serve themselves.

        My dude, this is all of the sources showing that they’re better jobs. It’s the government, corporate media, scientific research, all coming to the same conclusion.

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      • Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

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  • PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    It’s wild how you’re like

    Then negotiate. But don’t do anything to make the negotiation favorable to you and don’t do anything to prevent the other party from making the negotiation favorable to them.

    Wtf do you think negotiation is?

    This opinion is cousin to “then vote with your wallet, but if you boycott anything then you’re woke”
    And sibling to “the free market is best, except people shouldn’t be free to organize against corporations”

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  • Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

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