Comment on Should Germany aquire nuclear weapons?

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• sith@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  And what if the orange man and his friend Putin differs?

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  • HK65@sopuli.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    There is still the Fr*nch sub’s that Macron just offered to be a shared EU resource.

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    • sith@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      And what happens if Le Pen wins the next election?

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      • HK65@sopuli.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        About the same thing as if the AfD does.

        We get fucked, my friend. And that’s why establishing a shared EU army to pass the nukes to would be good for everyone.

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    • BastingChemina@slrpnk.net ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      France and the US are the only two NATO countries able to build nukes.

      Theoretically the UK are able to build nukes too but not without US support.

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      • HK65@sopuli.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        The Montebello Islands disagree.

        You technically could build a nuke with enough enriched uranium. The recipe for a nuke is literally:

        • take half of the amount of the enriched uranium required
        • smash the other half into it
        • boom, Hiroshima.

        You need a particular kind of nuclear reactor to create the enriched uranium, though. But for example in Ukraine, the Chornobyl reactor was built exactly for that.

        That said, the US, the UK and France are the only three NATO countries allowed under international agreement to build nukes.

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• remon@ani.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Not sure what you mean by “for German use”. The US is very much in charge of every step of the use of shared nuclear weapons. Our pilots get to deliver them, that’s pretty much all of our involvment.

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• OpenStars@discuss.online ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  What if the USA decides to side with Russia against Germany?

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  • EmbarrassedDrum@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    well if the bombs are located inside Germany it’s not all that simple

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    • sith@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Good luck using them unless you’re allowed to. Might be an option if you have a couple of months. Though you would have to defend against two nuclear powers during that time.

      Also good luck using your US made jets and critical components.

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      • HK65@sopuli.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Yeah, I’m pretty sure if Germany and the US were on so bad terms that they wouldn’t be trading, Western civilization would just collapse. The NL of ASML fame is a very, very close German ally.

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    • Birch@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Well it actually is, terrifyingly so even.

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  • Kaboom@reddthat.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    That’s how I know you’re European. America hates Russia. The cold war left generational trauma.

    You do not have to worry about America siding with Russia.

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    • Ixoid@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      JFC, have you been under a rock the last decade? The majority of American population? Maybe. The oligarchs and ruling class? Pft, Trump looks up to Putin as a ‘strong man’. edition.cnn.com/2022/03/28/politics/…/index.html

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• BastingChemina@slrpnk.net ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  If Germany can’t use the bomb without the US approbation then Germany does not have a nuclear bomb.

  Germany does not have a credible deterrence.

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