We don’t have infrastructure to produce a lot of the components in the things we buy, and even if we did, it would inherently cost a lot more to produce than in the countries that are about to have tariffs placed on them. That the US ever was a manufacturing powerhouse was, in my understanding, a very “place and time” sort of deal after World War II. Not only were all of our competitors recovering from being bombed, but we also advanced to a services based economy very quickly, raising the standard of living beyond a point that manufacturing jobs can typically afford to support. I’m no economist though; I just watch one on YouTube, and “the middle income trap” is a frequent topic.
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misk@sopuli.xyz 3 weeks agoWon’t the tariffs incentivise domestic production and give work to more regular folks? Sounds like a leftist idea to me.
ampersandrew@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
misk@sopuli.xyz 3 weeks ago
Tariffs can serve as a stimuli to build out local manufacturing capacity, which sounds pretty leftist to me. I understand arguments for laissez faire policies but at heart they are liberal and not left. It’s the refusal to accept it that led to far right being as popular as it is.
ampersandrew@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Anyone promising to return people to previously prosperous economic conditions will be popular, even if people don’t know that the promise can’t possibly be delivered. Coal isn’t coming back either, and there’s no “clean” version of it, but if all you’ve done in your life is coal, you’ll vote for the guy who says he’s bringing coal back.
Katana314@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Trump was basically the equivalent of the guy in your street that says when he’s president, everyone gets a million dollars and a pony.
misk@sopuli.xyz 3 weeks ago
I’m not here to convince liberals that they should try to care for the poor. I’m here to argue that the jig is up for the liberals - people are voting for literally anyone, including fascists, that promises to change the course.
SpitSalute@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Tell me you don’t know how the world works without telling me you don’t know how the world works.
misk@sopuli.xyz 3 weeks ago
Are you arguing that tariffs and other market restrictions are ineffective at incentivising moving of production sites?
SpitSalute@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Are you dancing around the fact that multiple industries have indicated they will pass on the cost of the tariffs to consumers?
misk@sopuli.xyz 3 weeks ago
They will do what’s most profitable. If domestic production becomes competitive someone will do it.
SpitSalute@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I’m sorry you’re right, the Republicans have always wanted to tackle that ocean plastic problem. Trump, of course, cares about that. He’s always talked about how much he wants to help clean up the ocean, oh wait…
misk@sopuli.xyz 3 weeks ago
Politicians lie so I’m mostly interested in outcomes, not the narratives that politicians use to make things happen.
OmegaLemmy@discuss.online 3 weeks ago
Half right half wrong, would benefit USA a lot more if they were a developing market, not the center of the modern world
misk@sopuli.xyz 3 weeks ago
Could be that US rejected modernity because it wasn’t working for them.
GhiLA@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
If you gave it thirty years and the entire world paused and waited for us, sure,… but, we have a global economy and old people need medications, cars need chips and batteries. We all depend on each other. We can’t charge a toll and pretend everything won’t see any ill effects
misk@sopuli.xyz 3 weeks ago
If you proposed something else that would uplift lower classes sooner they’d probably vote for it. What Democrats were offering wasn’t credible enough because people have been deceived for too long.