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nroth@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

• BreadOven@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Pasteurization doesn’t boil the milk though…

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  • barsoap@lemm.ee ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    UHT does, 140C for 2-5 seconds. Shelf-stable without refrigeration for up to nine months unless you open it.

    Frankly speaking the difference between milk from cows with good diet vs. from cows fed protein slop is greater than between the modes of processing.

    Still have PTSD from my mother feeding me raw milk – unlike in the US it’s legal here, also heavily regulated so it wasn’t a health risk microbiology-wise but boy am I sensitive to even slight off-tastes in milk because yes you’re going to interrupt the cooling chain and no that fridge doesn’t have 8C. Unless you’re a cheesemaker or such and it’s necessary for the process, stay away from raw.

    And, no, it doesn’t have health benefits. Maybe if your kid doesn’t play outside in the mud and the milk is the only source of germs they’re exposed to, then it may help them to not develop autoimmune disorders. Be sane, choose mud over milk.

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    • Droechai@lemm.ee ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Only time I’ve had raw milk was when I was a kid and visited farming friends, since they had a pitcher in the fridge from that days milking. They used it in cooking usually, but it wasn’t that bad to drink.

      The laws regarding cow and milk health is way different in Sweden that most other countries though, very strict routines around testing. We can eat raw eggs from the store.

      Milk: livsmedelsverket.se/…/mjolkens-kvalitet---kontrol…

      Eggs and birds:

      jordbruksverket.se/djur/…/salmonella

      www.livsmedelsverket.se/…/salmonella

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      • barsoap@lemm.ee ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        You know that exact kind of thing is why you’re known as arrogant swots all over Europe, don’t you? Do you google whether Denmark has safe tap water before going on ølviking?

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    • BreadOven@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Interesting, I’m not well-versed in pasteurization techniques.

      Sorry to hear about the raw milk PTSD. I’ve never had it, and don’t plan on it.

      Thanks for giving me something (UHT) to look into.

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• auzy@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  What nutritional benefits does it preserve exactly?

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  • JackbyDev@programming.dev ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Does it taste different? Of raw milk tastes different than pasteurized milk than radiated milk might taste different too.

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    • Droechai@lemm.ee ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      It taste differently and it usually hasnt gone through the separation of cream from the milk so it has high fat content and sometimes fat drops on the surface

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• WarlordSdocy@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I also imagine on the company side it’s probably more expensive to do that rather than just making it hot enough.

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