Comment on Anon tries programming in Java

• sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  And most IDEs will autogenerate it for you.

  That said, I think it highlights everything I hate about Java:

  public class MyClass {

  Why does it need to be a class? I’m not constructing anything?

  public static void main(String[] args) {

  Why is this a method? It should be a top-level function. Also, in most cases, I don’t care about the arguments, so those should be left out.

  System.out.println(“Hello world!”);

  Excuse me, what? Where did System come from, and why does it have an “out” static member? Also, how would I format it if I felt so inclined? So many questions.

  And here are examples from languages I prefer:

  C:

  #include “stdio.h”

  Ok, makes sense, I start with nothing.

  int main() {

  Makes sense that we’d have an entrypoint.

  printf(“Hello world”);

  Again, pretty simple.

  Python:

  print(“Hello world”)

  Ok, Python cheats.

  Rust:

  void main() {

  Ooh, entrypoint.

  println!(“Hello world”);

  I have to understand macros enough to realize this is special, but that’s it.

  In C, Python, and Rust, complexity starts later, whereas Java shoves it down your throat.

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• Malfeasant@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Some of us try to understand what we’re doing, rather than just copy/paste. It’s easy to discount how difficult learning the basics of something is when you’re already past it.

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