Comment on Serious statement: I don't understand the argument that not voting for Harris was the morally correct thing to do, because of Gaza. Why does anyone believe this?

• Hobbes_Dent@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  If avoiding the coming hate didn’t appeal to you then why bother?

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  • OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Because apparently, “not bothering” means more people not supporting Democrats, which means Republicans getting elected more. See? I can do DNC logic too. It’s actually your fault Trump got elected.

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• lastunusedusername2@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  You are unreachable

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• dream_weasel@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  Right. Need to support everyone, universal healthcare, universal basic income, without religion, no with religion, with feminism, with support for men’s rights, with support for immigration, not too much support for immigration, with support for small businesses, without enabling corporate America, and ranked choice voting, and younger people, more minorities, elect a woman, with more communism, no more socialism, with consequences for the right, with unity for all and put the past behind us.

  We get Trump because some entitled fuckers from every. single. camp. (often with conflicting interests) say “earn MY vote” or go to hell. The straight white cis bible thumping camp is voting as a bloc all the time. This is why D can’t get anything done: there is no sparkling unicorn candidate. Sometimes a little better is all you get. Lefties complain about people on the right being single issue voters, then turn around and single issue don’t vote.

  Thanks for the nut punch of a president.

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  • OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    I know you’re memeing, but to be honest, yes, I want a President whose platform is somewhat like what you described. Obviously I disagree with some random parts (i.e. “with more communism, no, more socialism, with consequences for the right”), but for heavens sake, at least the theoretical person running for President above is trying something new.

    This is what the Right is doing with Trump after all, and clearly people like it.

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    • dream_weasel@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Wouldn’t that be great, and I hope you get the chance to vote for it if such a candidate emerges. The extra gerrymandering and crippling of voter rights or just, you know, suspension of elections between now and then may have something to say about it though.

      Trump is not doing anything but saying “I’ll do this! And I’ll do that! And I’m the best at this!” And as long as he says enough bullshit all the voters say “of course he lies and says what he needs to say to get elected, but not about my thing!” Even if every week he contradicts the last thing he says.

      Short memories, unsophisticated voters, and single issue voting mean this strategy will basically always work. Remember, they have voters with single issue in, and you (or at least many in this thread or on Lemmy) are single issue out. Maybe well meaning, but functionally not a particularly smarter approach to getting the best available leader. It’s all “Fuck you, me!” and take the rest of us with you.

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