The funniest thing about this movie is that there is a video of Joaquin and gaga talking to each other on the premier with no sound. And someone who can read lips translates it to Joaquin asking gaga what this piece of shit is supposed to be. And she said something like: it’s not thaaaaat bad.
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southsamurai@sh.itjust.works 6 days ago
Well, based on what I’ve heard from people that have seen it, the problem is that it’s a total departure in tone and focus from the first one.
You do that in a sequel, and you can’t expect a lot of butts in seats.
BruceTwarzen@lemm.ee 5 days ago
scytale@lemm.ee 5 days ago
Isn’t Joaquin the type of actor who will only sign up for something if he really likes it? So he must have been onboard with the direction of the film right?
Emperor@feddit.uk 5 days ago
20 million bucks could make you like shit-flavour ice cream.
Emperor@feddit.uk 6 days ago
It’s not just that, but it goes all Dune: Messiah. Todd Phillips was clearly unpleased that some viewers saw Joker as the hero, so what was subtext in the first film is just bludgeoned into the audience in the second through the media of a really dull court appearance. The start had some promise and the idea that it was a musical was at least intriguing but it just becomes increasingly boring as the film drags on.
kofe@lemmy.world 5 days ago
I thought that was just me being ADHD lol. I watched from home and paused a few times to do other stuff. I didn’t think it was great, but not the worst. I also went in looking forward to the musical numbers that somehow people didn’t know about. Overall maybe 6.5/10? (This is probably the first time I’ve graded a film tbh)
Emperor@feddit.uk 5 days ago
No, it’s not terrible but could have been so much better. I think it is partly taking a beating because some fans see it as a direct insult to them for caring about the first film. I can see the point Todd Phillips is trying to make but I don’t think he realises that it has pretty much made both films largely irrelevant.