Comment on Absolutely nothing happened June 1989
Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 1 week agoArmed troops and tanks made their way to the square on the night of June 3 and into the morning hours of June 4. They soon shot those who stood in their way and crushed those who wouldn’t move out of it.
roguetrick@lemmy.world 1 week ago
Once again, that’s not out of line with what he and I said. There were barricades and fighting in the streets of Beijing, but the people occupying the square were negotiated with and peacefully dispersed.
Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 1 week ago
I don’t understand why you think it’s important to insist that nothing happened precisely inside Tiananmen Square, but you are perfectly happy for a massacre to have occurred in, say, Changan Avenue.
Anyway, to respond to the original challenge rather than argue your questionable morals.
A tank set ablaze by protesters burns in Tiananmen Square on June 3.
A Chinese armored personnel carrier, with crushed bicycles stuck to its side, sits in Tiananmen Square on June 4.
alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml 1 week ago
Nobody is happy that a massacre happened, there’s a huge difference between “10,000 unarmed protesters were murdered by tanks in cold blood because they wanted freedom, that’s how you know that China is a totalitarian police state that murders anyone who protests” and a more complex situation where ~300 protesters were killed after lynching a couple dozon cops and soldiers.
The Chinese government didn’t handle the situation correctly, even by their own evaluation, evidenced by the president of China resigning, and future protests being met with much more compromise, even in cases where the protesters were absolutely in the wrong, (such as anti-covid protesters or NIMBYs opposing the expansion of the shanghai maglev)
Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 1 week ago
So we are now trying the, it’s only 300 people so it’s not a massacre argument. Seeing as you bring up the 10,000 number, let’s look at the source.
The Chinese army crackdown on the 1989 Tiananmen Square protests killed at least 10,000 people, according to newly released UK documents.
Combined with the above photos, this seems closer to the truth than the official 300 Chinese story.
roguetrick@lemmy.world 1 week ago
Because it’s what happened.
Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 1 week ago
The other poster is trying to claim nothing bad happened inside Tiananmen Square itself. This is bullshit, and irrelevant.