Comment on Absolutely nothing happened June 1989

• Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Armed troops and tanks made their way to the square on the night of June 3 and into the morning hours of June 4. They soon shot those who stood in their way and crushed those who wouldn’t move out of it.

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  • roguetrick@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Once again, that’s not out of line with what he and I said. There were barricades and fighting in the streets of Beijing, but the people occupying the square were negotiated with and peacefully dispersed.

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    • Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I don’t understand why you think it’s important to insist that nothing happened precisely inside Tiananmen Square, but you are perfectly happy for a massacre to have occurred in, say, Changan Avenue.

      Anyway, to respond to the original challenge rather than argue your questionable morals.

      A tank set ablaze by protesters burns in Tiananmen Square on June 3.

      A Chinese armored personnel carrier, with crushed bicycles stuck to its side, sits in Tiananmen Square on June 4.

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      • alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Nobody is happy that a massacre happened, there’s a huge difference between “10,000 unarmed protesters were murdered by tanks in cold blood because they wanted freedom, that’s how you know that China is a totalitarian police state that murders anyone who protests” and a more complex situation where ~300 protesters were killed after lynching a couple dozon cops and soldiers.

        The Chinese government didn’t handle the situation correctly, even by their own evaluation, evidenced by the president of China resigning, and future protests being met with much more compromise, even in cases where the protesters were absolutely in the wrong, (such as anti-covid protesters or NIMBYs opposing the expansion of the shanghai maglev)

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      • roguetrick@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Because it’s what happened.

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