Comment on Absolutely nothing happened June 1989
alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml 5 weeks agoNobody is happy that a massacre happened, there’s a huge difference between “10,000 unarmed protesters were murdered by tanks in cold blood because they wanted freedom, that’s how you know that China is a totalitarian police state that murders anyone who protests” and a more complex situation where ~300 protesters were killed after lynching a couple dozon cops and soldiers.
The Chinese government didn’t handle the situation correctly, even by their own evaluation, evidenced by the president of China resigning, and future protests being met with much more compromise, even in cases where the protesters were absolutely in the wrong, (such as anti-covid protesters or NIMBYs opposing the expansion of the shanghai maglev)
Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
So we are now trying the, it’s only 300 people so it’s not a massacre argument. Seeing as you bring up the 10,000 number, let’s look at the source.
The Chinese army crackdown on the 1989 Tiananmen Square protests killed at least 10,000 people, according to newly released UK documents.
Combined with the above photos, this seems closer to the truth than the official 300 Chinese story.
alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml 5 weeks ago
That’s not what I’m saying at all.
The photo of students filling the square is from days before the massacre, the square had been evacuated peacefully, as evidenced by the Tank Man video showing the tanks leaving the empty square, with no piles of burning bodies and “tank pie” as the UK alleges.
300 people getting killed by cops due to the government’s failure to compromise and meet their demands is a tragedy, you don’t need to make up shit about tanks murdering 10x more people and then liquefying their corpses.
Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
If mods removed the above comment then I disagree with this censorship.
Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
The million protesters were peaceful. The local Beijing army regiment were largely sympathetic to the protesters and were not aggressive.
many of the soldiers in the People’s Liberation Army did not follow the orders to enforce martial law that night. Some soldiers were emotionally conflicted and were hesitant to turn their weapons on the students. They believed that the PLA belonged to the people and that they were supposed to fight for them and not against them
I’m quoting from Wikipedia and British diplomatic cables. It’s you who is trying to whitewash history.
alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml 5 weeks ago
The British government’s public releases about China are not credible, even less so when they conflict with evidence.