The people who think .world is socialist also think socialism is when the government does things and that social democracy is a type of socialism and not a type of liberalism.
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RVGamer06@sh.itjust.works 2 months agoSo those people calling it neoliberal are fucking liars
alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml 2 months ago
Lennny@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Socialism is when the CIA goes in and kills your leader right?
alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml 2 months ago
The CIA tried to kill Charles DeGaulle in 1961, but if the CIA isn’t trying to kill your leader, you’re not doing socialism.
PugJesus@lemmy.world 2 months ago
This is especially evident the way they get whipped into a froth any time actually existing (and former) socialist countries get brought up.
It’s funny that all the “AES” countries that are brought up are just authoritarian states, and sometimes, for that matter, authoritarian capitalist states. It’s almost like the people championing these supposedly socialist countries are just fascists painted red.
pjwestin@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Eh, it’s a mixed bag. There’s a very high concentration of centrist, “vote blue, no matter who,” liberals in Political Memes. They’re not the whole instance, but they’ve made a nice little echo chamber that makes them a pretty loud minority.
PugJesus@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Yeah, basically. ‘Neoliberal’ and ‘lib’ are just snarl words many tankies use to mean “Anyone less fascist than Mao”.
In general, .world is much less radical than many places on Lemmy. But they’re far from neoliberals. The average poster is slightly left of a Berniecrat, probably; that is to say, either a very strong SocDem or a very weak DemSoc.
Wogi@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Listen all I’m saying is that if we were so far left that Bernie was center right on policy the country would be a much better place for everyone.
PugJesus@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Wouldn’t it be lovely? Unfortunately, we’ve got a lot of fighting on the ground to convince our fellow citizens to get their asses there instead of some weird 90s fantasy world.
shroomato@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Thanks for calling tankies what they are: fascist.
Cowbee@lemmy.ml 2 months ago
Read Blackshirts and Reds, Socialism and Fascism are entirely incompatible and serve entirely different classes.
shroomato@lemmy.world 2 months ago
I’m theory, yes. In practice the idea of socialism has been hijacked and subverted by the same ruling class to serve their nefarious needs time and time again. Y’all should focus instead on how socialism is incompatible with authoritarianism. “Power to the people” my ass.