Comment on Explain why the US bail system is not insane

HomerianSymphony@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

• LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

  This avoids the whole premise of it though. It is supposed to be if they are a threat of not showing, you set no bail. Non violent crimes make 0 sense to have bail on. If you don’t attend there is a warrant placed for your arrest whether or not you paid bail. Also, ONLY rich people get all of their money back. The majority of the population posts bail using a bail bondsmen, so if they set your bail at $3000, you pay a bail bondman $300 to get out of jail until the court case (which will take months). You do not get that $300 dollars, the bondsmen gets it when you show up. If you do NOT show up, the bail bond company hires a bounty hunter to come after you, on top of the warrant for your arrest often times.

  So you get pulled over for an accusation, are “innocent” until proven guilty, but either are forced to pay money to gain freedom, or are placed in jail until getting decided “innocent” as you already were

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  • LustyArgonianMana@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    This. Justice shouldn’t be paywalled.

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  • TeoTwawki@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    and lose your job while in jail awaiting trial when you just don’t have the money.

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  • jmr100@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    you only need a bondsman if you are arrested for a felony, you(or friend) can just pay your full bond or the 10% (which you don’t get back) bondsmen normally charge extra on the 10% e.g paying 330 instead of the 300. it’s normally not a bounty hunter just the bondsman that’ll come if anyone since you’ll have a warrant for your arrest anyways.

    innocent until proven guilty is bullshit considering they take your mugshot/fingerprints at arrest. and if your too poor for the full bond you’re out money just for freedom. which is shit along with court cost and fines it’s a system made to keep the poor poor

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    • LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      I’ve never been arrested for a felony charge, I paid bail twice.

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• BananaTrifleViolin@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

  I think a lot of people misunderstand because in so many TV shows and movies it’s a trope for someone to get in trouble and be bailed out. The fact that they’ve got a court case to attend and that’s not the end of it is often left out.

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• JadenSmith@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

  Thanks, this is useful information for when they find the evidence.

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• 1984@lemmy.today ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

  The last time I saw this question asked on reddit, the OP thought paying bail was an alternative to serving prison time if you’re found guilty of a crime.

  Haha that’s funny :) I can actually see this happening in a future America though. The love of money is obscene.

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• DomeGuy@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

  Bail is not money you get back. It’s money that a bail bondsman doesn’t have to fork over if you dont show.

  Either you are so rich that the opportunity cost of tieing up the whole amount is more than the fee (so you just pay the bond fee) or you don’t have enough and need to ask someone to lend it to yoy (that is, you pay the bond.)

  New York tried to largely ban cash bail (becaue its essentially just a way to lock up the poor), but because of Republicans and police unions (i repeat myself) who whined about offenses while out on bail, the state poked a bunch of holes in it instead of making pre-trial detention easier.

  Cash bail is ALWAYS indefensible. If someone is so dangerous to civic order they need to be detained pre-trial, then no amount of money should get them out of it.

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