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• Comment105@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  Kill yourself and donate your body to culinary science.

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• nightofmichelinstars@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  I’ll bite (pun semi- intended) how is it religious?

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  • MindTraveller@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    There’s no way a person who bases their decisions on scientific thinking would eat corpses. Not unless they were in a situation of absolute desperation. A person who bases their decisions on scientific thinking would determine there’s a very high chance killing is bad, and would just eat plants instead. Even if it cost an extra four dollars per grocery trip.

    Corpse eating happens because of tradition and dogma. Because “that’s the way we’ve always done things.” We indoctrinate children into this blood cult and normalise violence the same way some religions normalise genital mutilation or ritual sacrifice of humans. Hells, the thanksgiving turkey, which is served in the literal shape of its corpse rather than being butchered or processed, is a ritual sacrifice.

    A religion is not defined only by worship of gods, or else Buddhism would not be a religion. A religion can be defined by dogmatic, ritualised, inhumane practices taught to children from birth in the name of tradition. That’s what carnism is. I’ve never seen a defence of carnism that didn’t speak to some idea of “the natural order” or “tradition” or “the gods made them to be our food”, or some other religious nonsense.

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    • commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      science doesn’t make moral judgement. killing can’t be scientifically “bad”

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    • Sunshine@lemmy.ca ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Your comment is based!

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    • gamermanh@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      There’s no way a person who bases their decisions on scientific thinking would eat corpses

      Lawl

      person who bases their decisions on scientific thinking would determine killing is bad

      LMAO

      the thanksgiving turkey, which is served in the literal shape of its corpse rather than being butchered or processed

      Right, because turkeys are naturally headless and featherless with their wings and legs tied up. Totally no processing going on at all with them

      is a ritual sacrifice

      You don’t kill a live turkey during thanksgiving, it’s not a fucking sacrifice

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      • MindTraveller@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        I see that you’re only able to argue using words when discussing the Thanksgiving turkey. For which your arguments amount to “but it’s cooked tho” and “but only the consumption of the flesh happens on the day”. Okay, both correct, and both irrelevant. Meanwhile, you’ve responded to all of my actual points not with words, logic, or meaning, but with guttural vocalisations of emotion. Thus, I infer that your only argument in favour of the carnist religion is an emotional one, intended not to persuade but to intimidate. So I repeat my claim that no scientifically minded person could agree with you.

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    • snekmuffin@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      you might wanna consider touching grass

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      • MindTraveller@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        No thanks, I’m allergic to grass. I’ll get itchy and my nose will run.

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    • letsgo@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Can you cite any peer reviewed studies that show scientific thinking necessarily leads away from omnivory?

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      • MindTraveller@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        Gregson, R., Piazza, J., & Boyd, R. L. (2022). ‘Against the cult of veganism’: Unpacking the social psychology and ideology of anti-vegans. Appetite, 178, 106143–106143. doi.org/10.1016/j.appet.2022.106143

        Results from our analyses suggest several individual differences that align r/AntiVegan users with the community, including dark entertainment, ex-veganism and science denial.

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    • smoker@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      You don’t understand what science or scientific thinking is.

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      • MindTraveller@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        You’re gonna tell me that “real” science is whatever aligns with your religion, aren’t you?

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    • grahamja@reddthat.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      You are labeling other people as weird, while being super weird about it.

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      • MindTraveller@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        Do you want me to use tame insults or to call carnists murderers?

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    • howrar@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      A person who bases their decisions on scientific thinking would determine killing is bad

      Science does not produce value judgements.

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