The term, “involuntarily celibate” is not about how someone thinks, hence the “involuntary” portion of the phrase.
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spankmonkey@lemmy.world 2 months agoIncels are defined by how they think, not what they are.
WhyFlip@lemmy.world 2 months ago
ContrarianTrail@lemm.ee 2 months ago
Depends of which definition you go by, I guess. I prefer the literal meaning of the word; involuntary celibate. A person who is celibate against their own will.
Diddlydee@feddit.uk 2 months ago
ContrarianTrail@lemm.ee 2 months ago
I think you’re being a bit unfair there. These attitudes often stem from their inability to form relationships. The struggle came first, and the resentment followed. They aren’t without sex and relationships because they’re inherently hateful people; rather, the hatred emerges from prolonged frustration and rejection.
In most cases, I believe the inability to get into relationships is less about character and more about factors like social awkwardness, lack of friends, poor hygiene, unfortunate genetics, spending too much time online or gaming, etc.
WolfLink@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
The struggle to form relationships comes from issues like what you mentioned here, which are mostly things that are a part of your character. The incel logic is circular.
spankmonkey@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Because of how they think making them have awful personalities.
spankmonkey@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Nobody is celibate against their will. They might have difficulty getting into relationships, but they are also choosing not to use the services of sex workers.
ContrarianTrail@lemm.ee 2 months ago
I don’t think that’s fair. It’s not just sex they are after; they want a relationship but are unable to get into one.
richieadler@lemmy.myserv.one 2 months ago
A relationship defined in their own learned psychopathic terms.
lud@lemm.ee 2 months ago
That’s illegal though.
spankmonkey@lemmy.world 2 months ago
It is not illegal everywhere.