Comment on Steve Jobs: The difference of stealing yourself vs being stolen from

• ryathal@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  He did father a child he denied to the day he died, intentionally screwed Woz out of his fair share of the apple fortune, killed himself by treating cancer with quackery. Jobs is probably more self made, but that’s about it.

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  • Korne127@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Jobs is probably more self made, but that’s about it.

    I just gave you some pretty major differences. To me, most things that defines Musk as the horrible person he is aren’t true for Jobs. Again: The extremist position, transphobia, the fact that he bought into his companies and didn’t actually invent these things and made these breakthroughs by himself (which is just not true for Jobs, even if you have reasons to not like him), that he just got his money by his father’s mine and hasn’t made such successes by himself, etc. All of that doesn’t apply to Jobs.

    Those things you mention are just… cases of him doing awful stuff; most of them not even related to Musk in any way. But if “he did awful stuff” is enough to set him on the same layer as Musk, then he is also “the same person” as a good share of all people living.

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• DumbAceDragon@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  That’s true, he was not nearly as bad as Musk. I was mainly talking about how he’s a general asshole who steals from others and is revered by techbros.

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  • Korne127@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I don’t necessarily agree with that, but I get this point (in contrast to how you phrased it before), so fair I guess.

    But just one thing:

    is revered by techbros I actually don’t know any people who revere Musk. I know this is dependent on the bubble, but at least with Jobs being generally seen pretty favourable and Musk seen extremely unfavourable by most people, I think there’s a big difference.

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