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• vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  The bees seem kinda chill about it. They can just kinda fuck off after all.

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  • rekorse@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Not sure where the debate is this moment but from my understanding, vegans won’t eat honey.

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    • theblueredditrefugee@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I have a cousin who’s vegan and I was legit curious about this, and she literally said exactly that - “the bees can leave if they want”, but from what I understand there are other vegans who disagree

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    • chetradley@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I won’t speak for other vegans, but my research into beekeeping and honey production turned me against the industry for the following reasons:

      • Beekeepers will commonly clip the wings of queens to keep them from swarming or leaving.
      • Semen is commonly extracted from bees by crushing them.
      • Honey taken from hives is commonly replaced with a nutrient-devoid sugar solution, affecting the health of the bees.
      • Selective breeding of honeybees has made them more susceptible to diseases which can also affect native insects.
      • Honeybees have been shown to cause serious disruptions to plant-pollinator networks, putting local pollinators at great risk.

      scientificamerican.com/…/the-problem-with-honey-b…

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      • blindbunny@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Thanks for the bullet points and link, comrade.

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  • ClassifiedPancake@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Beekeeping is a real problem, especially since it became a new hobby for some people. It’s advertised as helping to save the bees but in reality the honey bees are not in danger. They are the danger - to wild bees and other local insects.

    www.nature.com/articles/s41598-018-27591-y

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    • vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Thats a seperate matter from animal abuse though, also I live in a region with lots of orchards (or atleast used to have) so bee keeping is just kinda a factor.

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      • ClassifiedPancake@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Yes it’s not abuse but still a man-made problem for animals, which is why I mentioned it.

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