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• ClassifiedPancake@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  The moment an animal is involved in the process of making money they are bred, caged and treated only as “good” as needed so they stay alive.

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  • chemicalprophet@lemm.ee ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    We’ve done the same with people… Fuck capitalism and all its sociopathic sycophants.

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    • urfavlaura@lemmy.ml ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      humans are animals too so we’ve not really progressed that far

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    • ClassifiedPancake@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Indeed

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• Emerald@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Why would you ever assume an animal agriculture practice wouldn’t be abusive?

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  • vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    The bees seem kinda chill about it. They can just kinda fuck off after all.

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    • rekorse@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Not sure where the debate is this moment but from my understanding, vegans won’t eat honey.

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      • theblueredditrefugee@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        I have a cousin who’s vegan and I was legit curious about this, and she literally said exactly that - “the bees can leave if they want”, but from what I understand there are other vegans who disagree

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      • chetradley@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        I won’t speak for other vegans, but my research into beekeeping and honey production turned me against the industry for the following reasons:

        • Beekeepers will commonly clip the wings of queens to keep them from swarming or leaving.
        • Semen is commonly extracted from bees by crushing them.
        • Honey taken from hives is commonly replaced with a nutrient-devoid sugar solution, affecting the health of the bees.
        • Selective breeding of honeybees has made them more susceptible to diseases which can also affect native insects.
        • Honeybees have been shown to cause serious disruptions to plant-pollinator networks, putting local pollinators at great risk.

        scientificamerican.com/…/the-problem-with-honey-b…

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    • ClassifiedPancake@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Beekeeping is a real problem, especially since it became a new hobby for some people. It’s advertised as helping to save the bees but in reality the honey bees are not in danger. They are the danger - to wild bees and other local insects.

      www.nature.com/articles/s41598-018-27591-y

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      • vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Thats a seperate matter from animal abuse though, also I live in a region with lots of orchards (or atleast used to have) so bee keeping is just kinda a factor.

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