Comment on Etsy forcing arbitration starting Sep 15

9point6@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

• scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Would it hold up in court? Probably not. But in America the court system is pay to win, and does any person have the funds to go up against a literal team of lawyers paid top dollar by their backing corporation?

  So yeah, you could sue them and say the license agreement doesn’t matter that it’s not legal, but you’re going to bankrupt yourself doing so.

  America, land of the “free”

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  • Transporter_Room_3@startrek.website ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Land of the Fee*

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    • AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      And The Home of The Slave!

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      • Zorsith@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Uncle Sam Goddamn

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• RangerJosie@sffa.community ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  No. Being cartoonishly malicious towards our wage slaves is our guiding principle.

  That poetic sounding “Shining city on a hill” is a gated community surrounded by slums that don’t have electricity.

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• doctortofu@reddthat.com ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  It’s baffling, isn’t it? How can a company just unilaterally decide to not be subject to this or that law, and the courts just… go with it? It’s the same level of idiocy exhibited by sovereign citizens, but somehow, when you’re a corporation they actually let you do it…

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• artemisRiverborne@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  It is because the company can claim u opted to use their service so they can make whatever rules they want, and the company has nothing to lose by pushing the legal limits bc the company is a person so none of the ceos or board members will ever be held responsible. Welcome to capitalism unchecked

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• jecxjo@midwest.social ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  The idea is that if you wanted to fight a big company with lawyers you’ll either lose because they will delay till you’re broke, or you’ll win but the lawyers will get most of the money. If you have a legit issue they would honor resolving the issue without anyone having to spend time, money, and publicity in court. It means you might actually win one of these times. The joke part is we already have an unbiased arbitration system…our courts.

  This is legal, currently, because this is basically a non-disclosure. We will deal with our problems outside the legal system and no one will talk about it. We do this in other cases but its usually human to human, not human to massive corporate entity.

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  • grue@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    The real reason all the companies are coming up with forced arbitration clauses is that it kills class-action lawsuits.

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