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• samus12345@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Had to look up “sea lion.” That’s something I’ve seen a lot of, but never knew there was a specific term for.

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  • LinkOpensChest_wav@lemmy.one ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Yeah, it’s sadly ubiquitous. I don’t think a day goes by when I don’t witness several sea lions in the wild

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    • samus12345@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Tucker “I’m just asking questions” Carlson must be the poster child for them.

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  • PM_ME_FAT_ENBIES@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Sealion in an accusation that rests on assuming someone else’s intentions. You can’t ever know for sure if someone is a sealion, because people aren’t mind readers. I usually see sealioning accusations thrown by neurotypicals at autistic people, because they can’t read our emotions like they’re used to and that freaks them out and they assume hostile intent.

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    • samus12345@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Yes, it could be mistaken for that if a person isn’t paying attention. But the difference between acting in good faith and not is usually pretty obvious as it goes on.

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      • PM_ME_FAT_ENBIES@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Well that’s a tremendous amount of faith in your ability to read other people’s minds. And given you make no distinction between reading the minds of neurotypicals and autistics, I’d bet good money that you’re frequently wrong when you try to read autistic minds. Which would make your actions towards autistic people frequently cruel.

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  • Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I’ve been running into something adjacent, but doesn’t quite fit that description. Basically people use the tactics of Sealioning but the motivation seems to be just reframing the conversation to whatever they wanted to talk about, rather than necessarily pissing you off. It can be just as annoying though.

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    • samus12345@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Yeah, that wouldn’t count because they’re just being a standard asshole who wants to control the conversation rather than trying to troll with bad faith questions.

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• dmmeyournudes@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  You do realize that associating with primarily people who share the same views or values as you is literally an echo chamber right?

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  • trashgirlfriend@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Sometimes people want to have a conversation without someone with the username DMmeYourNudes wanting to debate them.

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    • dmmeyournudes@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      That’s an echo chamber lol.

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      • trashgirlfriend@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        No, it’s a community of people discussing things that they know a lot about.

        You’re basically going “Oh, you don’t want the pigeon to join your chess tournament? Are you scared it will outplay you while shitting on the board?”

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  • LinkOpensChest_wav@lemmy.one ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Nope. That term is only used by sea lions and shitlords. It’s one of those terms like “virtue signaling” that immediately lets you know the person has less to offer society than a common housefly or roach.

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    • dmmeyournudes@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Really inclusive to just reject anyone who criticizes you lol.

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• PM_ME_FAT_ENBIES@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I argue with fascists, exclus, medicalists, and sexists all the time and I’ve never met a sealion. But I have met neurotypical people who expect their sense of cognitive empathy to work on neurodivergent people, and then project all sorts of BS onto them for having a different opinion. IME that term is a dogwhistle for ableism.

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  • LinkOpensChest_wav@lemmy.one ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    You’ve never spent any time on reddit, I take it?

    That’s a whole colony of sea lions.

    Lucky you, but I encounter sea lions all the time. People like Tucker Carlson and Ben Shapiro have formed entire careers around sea-lioning.

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    • PM_ME_FAT_ENBIES@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Well see, sealioning is feigning ignorance, and it’s a simple fact that bigots really are that ignorant. I’ve never met anyone who understood progressive issues and still disagreed, except for amoral people who chose to have little investment and wouldn’t bother to engage in sealioning. This idea you’re proposing that there are people who pretend to be ignorant doesn’t make any sense to me. If they are acting like foolish bigots, I choose to believe them.

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