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retrospectology@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

• abbadon420@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  The word “dogwhistle” has also lost all meaning. I mean that’s its mostly used to patronize the other side. Much like how they use woke. There are reasonable people on both side and none of them use these words.

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  • Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    If a dog whistle no longer means “something that is said with the intention of most people hearing something harmless and others knowing what the speaker actually means” please enlighten me.

    Seems like an accurate usage to me.

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  • Donebrach@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    this sure is a word salad of a literal non-statement.

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    • abbadon420@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      If it’s not a statement than what is it, a poem in disquise? If it’s wrong doesn’t make it a non-statement.

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  • erin@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    What? They used the word correctly. How are you gonna pull out “both sides” when they’re correct? It hasn’t lost its meaning, you just don’t like hearing it so often because, surprise surprise, there’s an awful lot of dog whistling going on in the current political cycle. It means a signal used to communicate loyalty or belief to an idea, group, platform, etc, that is understood by other people who agree, and not necessarily obvious to the neutral observer. In this case, the word “woke” is a dog whistle for bigots. It was applied correctly.

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    • abbadon420@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      I get it. But it is not “you don’t like it”, that’s obviously just your interpretation of how I must think. It is simply the notion that, indeed, it happens a lot lately. Seems to be tied to the current radicalization of politics.

      I do suppose there is dogwhistles on all sides. Left, right, racists, nazis, communist and all other radical groups. But i primarily hear it about nazis and racists. That made me think it was something tied to racists and nazis. Maybe that is just because racists and nazis are in the centre of attention a lot these days.

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      • erin@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        It was a general assumption, and apparently not an accurate one. I don’t presume to actually know how you think from one comment. There are dog whistles on all sides, because it’s essentially a term for an “inside joke,” minus the humor (usually). It comes up most often with Nazis and racists not because they’re the center of attention necessarily, but mostly because dog whistles are needed primarily by groups that are not socially acceptable. You cannot be openly racist except with other racists, or openly a Nazi except with other Nazis. Dog whistles allow people to declare allegiance and signal to others that believe the same without needing to openly state it. Usually, we still know anyways, but it gives them plausible deniability in their eyes.

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