Comment on Alec Baldwin's manslaughter trial over Rust shooting has been dismissed

• Infynis@midwest.social ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  It would be like letting the owner of a company walk…

  So standard practice

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  • SchmidtGenetics@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    In Canada there’s laws that can hold the owner accountable for stuff like this.

    Bill C45 in Canada

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• AngryishHumanoid@reddthat.com ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Sorry I thought I was making it clear that the dismissal was due to the negligence of the police, but even if it had gone to trial it was still an uphill battle to claim his responsibility as producer. If the armorer could be proven to have been a bad hire it could have fallen on him, maybe, but if the production could prove that they took reasonable steps to see if she was qualified but were sadly mistaken that would make it hard to prove negligence.

  Personally I would rather it had gone to trial and given the full chance under the law to prove innocence or guilt, dismissal with prejudice is not the same thing as a finding of not guilty even if the result is the same.

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  • SchmidtGenetics@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    It’s interesting seeing the law differences, in Canada this would be considered criminal.

    Westray bill c45

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• protist@mander.xyz ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  As producer he should still hold the final culpability of anyone and anything on site. It would be like letting the owner of a company walk on a technicality, he’s still responsible in the end.

  What you’re describing would be civil liability, not criminal. It would potentially be criminal if a supervisor knew one of their direct reports was doing something illegal and condoned it or did nothing, but that doesn’t seem to be the case here

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  • SchmidtGenetics@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    In Canada it would be criminal and not civil.

    It comes down to who has directly authority over someone though iirc.

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    • protist@mander.xyz ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I bet Canada’s putting a ton of CEOs in jail, right?

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      • SchmidtGenetics@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        The link actually includes everyone who has been charged under the bill if you read it!

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    • Arbiter@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I’m glad someone has and enforces some sane laws.

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• PunnyName@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  What about the people who actually committed the crime?

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  • SchmidtGenetics@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Unless they get off on this due process as well, they would also be accountable.

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    • AngryishHumanoid@reddthat.com ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I strongly disagree. You can vet someone properly, they can have good references, work experience and history, then they come in and do something stupid and it still falls on someone else? If they did the appropriate amount of due diligence (and can show that) I don’t see why someone else’s mistake would roll up like that.

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      • SchmidtGenetics@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        It doesn’t fall on someone else, the person who fucked up is still culpable, it’s just the people that hired them and directed their work ( you can’t be liable if you don’t direct their work it’s how the chain works) can be held liable too.

        You can disagree all you want, but why would your boss who directs you not be liable for what they get you to do….?

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