Comment on Casual reminder

• protist@mander.xyz ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Biden didn’t just not go left, he tried to outflank the republicans from the right by facilitating genocide, ending covid protections, and passing the most draconian border bill since like the 40s.

  This is one of the worst examples of confirmation bias I have ever seen. The Biden Administration’s entire record is out there for you to peruse, and you pick 3 things out of hundreds, possibly thousands, that you think justify your comparison.

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• disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Your hyperbole is over the top. Trump’s Title 42 and Muslim ban were far worse.

  POTUS has no reasonable control over grocery store prices, which is the part of the economy everyone is concerned with. Last time an Executive Order was used to price fix the food industry, it blew up in Nixon’s face. Supply chain constraints were industry wide, and when the order expired, prices went up far past standard inflation.

  I completely agree about support of Israel. The only comparison is knowing Trump will be worse for Palestinians. It’s terrible to reconcile, but those are the options.

  Abstaining isn’t voting for Trump, it’s refusing to stand in his way.

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  • alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Trump’s Title 42 and Muslim ban were far worse.

    Biden waited 3.5 years to end title 42 and tried to close the border. He has deported more people than Trump.

    POTUS has no reasonable control over grocery store prices

    He literally does though. But there’s a million other things he could have done when he had control. Instead we just get excuses about how powerless the party controlling both houses and the presidency was because of Manchin or the parliamentarian or the SCOTUS or some rules the dems set for themselves or norms or whatever.

    There’s no point in quibbling about whether Biden was less bad than trump, these actions decrease how many people will vote for him.

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    • TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      @disguy_ovahea

      You shouldn’t engage with this guy. Its always a bait and switch/ false premise/ straw man with this guy.

      You make a point about an actual bill (the mexican border bill), he makes it about trump and a muslim ban.

      Its always in bad faith. Its a condition of blue MAGA.

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      • disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Read the thread you’re so confident in condemning.

        I cited all of my statements while your friend here repeatedly made false claims.

        Maybe you two should get a place together in misinformation land.

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    • disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Wrong.

      Biden ended the Muslim Ban on Jan 21, 2021.

      www.usatoday.com/story/travel/news/…/4240420001/

      He ended Title 42 on May 20, 2022, but the measure was stopped by federal judges. It took until May of 2023 to be completed.

      texastribune.org/…/title-42-border-judge-ruling-m…

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      • alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        1. Nobody is talking about the Muslim ban, we’re talking about the more recent attempt to close the mexican border.

        But it’s irrelevant, you’re still missing the point.

        My point is that Biden’s unpopular actions decrease how many people will vote for him. This is how Biden ensures Trump will come to power.

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  • audiomodder@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    If you look at many people’s material conditions during Trump and during Biden, they haven’t gotten better. You can say whatever you want about Biden’s policies, his cabinet appointments, and how much Democrats have done when they hold power, but at the end of the day it hasn’t changed most folks’ lives one bit. It might be good metric-wise, but until folks feel like they’re better off it doesn’t matter.

    Also, it’s hilarious to me how much shit Republicans seem to get done even when they don’t hold the House, Senate, and White House together, but the minute Republicans get one of those, suddenly it’s “oh shit Democrats can’t do anything”. It’s like Republicans are playing with nukes and Democrats are showing up with rubber band guns.

    And no, I won’t be voting for Biden, I’ll be voting third party. And I know, you think “a vote for a third party is a vote for Trump”, but I don’t give a shit. I’ve been seeing this same “at least I’m not…” shit for 25 years and watching our country be sold to the highest bidder under both parties. At this point, if we can’t figure out shit out, we deserve to be razed to the ground.

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  • octopus_ink@lemmy.ml ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Supply chain constraints were industry wide, and when the order expired, prices went up far past standard inflation.

    Just a reminder to folks emphasizing that retailers used that as cover for corporate greed, and a lot of it was lies. Various links:

    dailymontanan.com/…/trade-watchdog-big-retailers-…

    nytimes.com/…/grocery-prices-pandemic-ftc.html

    news.harvard.edu/…/retailers-have-been-cutting-co…

    Great quote from that Harvard one (they called it months before the FTC did, but I think this was clear to anyone buying basic goods):

    HBS research suggests firms have held off lowering them because it appears consumers got used to paying more

    The FTC report that is the basis for the first three links above: ftc.gov/…/ftc-releases-report-grocery-supply-chai…

    And don’t get me started on shrinkflation.

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    • disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      That’s true of the post-pandemic food industry prices for sure. That description was regarding the failure of Nixon’s attempt to price fix with an Executive Order.

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      • octopus_ink@lemmy.ml ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Oh sorry I was clearly not paying much attention to what I was reading. Thanks for the gentle correction.

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• TrickDacy@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  he tried to outflank the republicans from the right

  You really expect to be taken seriously saying some idiotic shit like this?

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• Samsy@lemmy.ml ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Outflanking the rights is a bad decision, because you put their extreme positions into mainstream.

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