Comment on Obama vs. Romney: The first 2012 presidential debate

• ThePantser@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  You mean when they started to argue like children who the better golfer was? The people don’t give a shit who is better at golf. Unless we can end wars with a golf-off between world leaders.

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  • dingus@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Oh my God yes! I was dying!

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  • Anticorp@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    By all accounts, trump is actually pretty good at golf, yet he still cheats, because he’s a cheater to the core. Cheat at golf, cheat at life.

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  • swayevenly@lemm.ee ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    No, it was when I found out we beat medicare.

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• givesomefucks@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  The worst part is trump has been exactly the same the last three elections.

  His bullshit is normalized to most voters.

  Biden wasn’t great in 2020, but he’s a hell of a lot worse now. Which is why we never see him compared to other presidents when they were in office.

  So for Republicans last night went fucking perfectly. And for Dems, it went about as bad as it could have.

  There’s just no reason to run a candidate voters don’t like or agree with just because the other candidate is so much worse. Even if we stop the worst, we still don’t get what we want.

  None of it makes logical sense, which is probably why Biden’s few supporters only want to talk about how dangerous trump is. It’s really really hard to come up with a reason Biden should be the candidate. Even being an incumbent doesn’t matter when you have terrible approval ratings, those make incumbency a hindrance not an advantage

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  • dingus@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    While I agree that Biden no longer really seems fit to be president, the dangerous Trump argument is absolutely not one to be downplayed. A man that attempted to overthrow the government in a tantrum when he didn’t get his way should be absolutely nowhere near close to becoming president again. A sack of potatoes or Biden’s literally corpse would be a better president.

    I agree that it’s disappointing that these are our only two options and that the Dems could not figure out a better candidate this go around.

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    • givesomefucks@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      the dangerous Trump argument is absolutely not one to be downplayed

      Which is why it’s so bad Biden insists on staying in the race.

      If he thought beating trump was the most important thing, he’d have announced years ago that he wouldn’t run again.

      But he’ll never stand down. Because he wants a second term more than stopping trump from having a second.

      And people realizing Biden is risking that for his own ego, makes him even less likely to stop trump.

      Historically “vote for me or else” doesn’t work well

      We know what works to motivate Dem voters: young, charismatic, and progressive sounding candidates.

      We can’t get that to stop trump, because 82 year old Biden won’t retire.

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