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• Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

  The world of a hundred years ago. Where I live, the liberal parties mostly want to create more freedom for companies to fuck people over.

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  • Cowbee@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

    Yep, pretty much. Liberalism serves the interests of Capital over people.

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  • DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

    Robespierre Did Nothing Wrong

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• KazuyaDarklight@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

  Liberals Left, Republicans Right, is the dichotomy of the US at least.

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  • Cowbee@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

    Overton Window, maybe, but that’s not a particularly useful categorization. Parties repredent relatively fixed views, not directions.

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    • KazuyaDarklight@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

      In the US it’s a spectrum combining party policy and Overton Window. As you move left, you go deeper and deeper into increasingly extreme thoughts on policy regarding what we consider classic liberal topics such as social justice, corporate power, various societal and economic reforms, etc till it hits an extreme that’s considered radical to the average, the same goes for the right and classic conservative views.

      Hugging the middle/mixed gray zone are the Centrist.

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      • Cowbee@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

        I think you’re a bit confused on terms.

        Social Justice isn’t really a “Liberal” topic. It’s a topic many US Liberals generally are progressive on, but that doesn’t make it “Liberal.” Liberalism is also not about reforming the economy but maintaining “healthy” Capitalism.

        Liberal views are therefore views in line with Liberalism itself, and Liberal Parties like the DNC represent Liberalism and movements towards Liberalism, not movements towards the left.

        Social Democracy, ie what Scandinavian Countries have, would be centrist.

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  • archomrade@midwest.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

    US liberals and US conservatives both share the core ideals of Liberalism, including the right to private property

    They differ only in where they think individual liberty ends.

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• Cryophilia@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

  USA

  Liberal in the US means progressive. It’s a term referring to social issues, not economic ones.

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  • Cowbee@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

    Liberal in the USA means Liberal economically, it’s just that economic Liberalism is more progressive than the alternstive, far-right populism.

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    • Cryophilia@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

      Liberal in the USA means Liberal economically

      No, it absolutely does not. You are lying.

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      • Cowbee@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

        Yes it does. The Liberals in the US support Liberalism. Calling someone a Liberal means they support Liberalism in the US.

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