Israel is the terrorist. Israel was established by murdering and displacing the people who lived there.
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andrewta@lemmy.world 4 months ago
In 1948 when Israel was formed as a nation state, the borders were set at that time. It would not have been a problem but terrorists (think Hamas and other groups like that) kept going across the border into Israel and killing and committing other crimes. Israel fought back.
As Israel fought back more cross border raids happened.
Israel puts up the iron dome ( understandable because of the missiles being launched at them).
Israel pushed their borders to try to get some breathing room. I disagree with their belief the area should be settled. Make it a DMZ ? Fine, that’s a legitimate usage. But to settle it? Now they are (in my opinion) expanding their territory and not creating a buffer zone.
But I’m not sure what the answer is.
Leave Palestine alone and allow hamas to keep doing cross border raids?
Keep responding to the individual cross border raids and attack hamas? That doesn’t solve the problem because hamas will keep coming.
Put other nations militaries on the border? Hamas will just call that an act of aggression by those countries and attack those militaries.
Hamas has a belief that all Jews everywhere should be killed. So where would the Jews even go?
Just expand their nation ( Israel) to the ocean? Ok then where do the Palestinians go?
I’m not sure what the answer is.
The state of Palestine was split to create two countries Palestine and Israel. Because historically that was the Jewish homeland. But how do we solve this current problem. I have no idea
istanbullu@lemmy.ml 4 months ago
andrewta@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Yeah it would have nothing to do with the fact that after world war 2 no one would take in the Jews. So a Jewish state was created. Nah nothing to do with that at all.
istanbullu@lemmy.ml 4 months ago
Did they have to murder and displace millions of Palestinians?
markko@lemmy.world 4 months ago
You need to read more about this subject from an unbiased source.
JeffreyOrange@lemmy.world 4 months ago
For example?
Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Israel was formed from a combination of terrorist groups like Lehi and Irgun.
Israel is like the power ranger form of terrorism.
orrk@lemmy.world 4 months ago
and thus you justified the 14 words.
“We must secure the existence of our people and a future for Jewish children”
we must slaughter Palestinians, because only then can we be safe!
Tryptaminev@lemm.ee 4 months ago
Colonial league of nations declare Israeli state after later to become Israeli terrorists have terrorized Palestinians and the British troops to force them out. Palestinians are not asked on the matter if they want to give those terrorists a fascist ethnostate on their land.
Fascist ethnostate gets declared, starts ethically cleansing hundreds of thousands of people.
Some neighbouring countries try to prevent that.
75 years of propaganda and brainwashing and people like you spin it like the Israelis are the victims, even while they are currently committing an even worse genocide and ethnic cleansing than they used to do back then and in between.
olafurp@lemmy.world 4 months ago
What kind of bubble do you live in? If you take 2 million people, close their airspace, ports and land borders they’re not going to be happy.
On top of that Israel does the following:
- imprison kids for throwing rocks at soldiers wearing armor
- take people’s houses, most recently in Sheikh Jarrah
- Ban farmers from using water, promise water from other sources and don’t deliver.
- Close West Bank Airport
- Settle lands in he West Bank.
- Make Palestinians go to Military court with 99% conviction rate instead of a civil court.
- Administrative detetention without giving any reason. (Because classified)
- Withold evidence from courts that’s used to convict them. (Because classified)
- Settlements are both within the 1948 borders and even within the Olso accord Green line.
- Beat people up and throw tear gas that go play at Al-Aqsa mosque.
- Don’t convict any settlers of violence.
- Fondle women at check points when they open the trunk of their cars.
- Limit imports to single item per pallet.
- Limit work visas.
- Limit family reunification as a way to immigrate across the border.
- Random checkpoints that destroy tourism such as in Jericho.
- Open policy of disproportial response to every reaction the Palestinians have.
- Raid refugee camps and destroy their roads like in Jenin.
- Kill journalists that cover the story such as Shireen Abu Akleh
- Don’t even convict the murdered because he was a soldier.
- Oh and kill/wound 5% of Gaza, half of which are children, for good measure.
When people are suffocating because someone has their foot on their throat they react. Nobody should be surprised that Oct 7 happened. Especially after Israel was warned many times that they would do something if they continue raiding one of the holiest sites in Islam.
meldrik@lemmy.wtf 4 months ago
Which neighbouring nations approved of those borders and does Israel respect those borders today?
StaySquared@lemmy.world 4 months ago
The borders were technically a theory… an idea. It wasn’t even officially established until Israel gained military might, if I remember correctly.