Maybe people in Brooklyn, Queens, the Bronx, and Manhattan hate him, but Staten Island, Long Island, and upstate NY are Trump country
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KevonLooney@lemm.ee 1 year agoDon’t look at the conviction rate for federal prosecutors then. And stock up on BBQ sauce. A NY jury would convict Trump of just being fat and ugly, that’s how much everyone (including Republicans) hate him. People literally go out of their way to make their dogs pee on Trump Tower.
You will just change your mind and say “He should have gotten more time! 5 years is nothing. House arrest? His house is huge!”
For a former president, that’s the worst possible.
Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 1 year ago
KevonLooney@lemm.ee 1 year ago
Where do you think all the people live? It’s not Staten Island.
AlwaysNowNeverNotMe@kbin.social 1 year ago
I'll sit on the laurel of all the presidents who have been convicted of their crimes so far.
KevonLooney@lemm.ee 1 year ago
While you’re looking at them, compare their average approval ratings. Trump has the lowest of them all, having never broken 50% approval.
AlwaysNowNeverNotMe@kbin.social 1 year ago
I'm sure that will really hamper him in the popularity contest portion of the trial but he will pick those back up in the swimsuit contest.
sundrei@lemmy.sdf.org 1 year ago
I get what you’re saying, but yuck
VikingHippie@lemmy.wtf 1 year ago
conviction rate for federal prosecutors
The thing is that they, like state and local prosecutors, prosecute poor people who can’t afford effective representation tens if not hundreds of times as often.
If you isolate their stats with regards to rich and/or powerful defendants like the Mango Mussolini, suddenly they don’t convict at anywhere near that rate.
The difference is so immense that even an obviously guilty oaf with incompetent and unhinged lawyers like him is more likely than not to win or at the very least delay until his own death at his country club home.
Ya_Boy_Skinny_Penis@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Oh so you “isolated the stats” then.
Great, share them!
VikingHippie@lemmy.wtf 1 year ago
Tb0n3@sh.itjust.works 1 year ago
Such a high wind rate for federal prosecutions is indicative of a problem. Whether that be only taking cases, which they are assured victory or winning against those who are not guilty, they’re both wrong.
kirklennon@kbin.social 1 year ago
The criminal justice system is intended to be biased in favor of the defendants as innocent until proven guilty. Consequently, if everything were working perfectly, I'd expect prosecutors to only charge people if they were extremely confident that they could prove the person's guilt beyond a reasonable doubt. Taking cases without solid evidence and regularly losing at trial would be indicative of a major problem.
Tb0n3@sh.itjust.works 1 year ago
kirklennon@kbin.social 1 year ago
If prosecutors lost more cases, that would mean they were being even more aggressive in over-prosecuting flimsy cases.
VikingHippie@lemmy.wtf 1 year ago
Especially when you dig a little deeper and look into socio-economic and racial ratios of both prosecutions in general and convictions.
It’s a system by and for the rich and powerful, designed to protect people exactly like Trump while criminalizing poverty and melanin.
bassomitron@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Republican voters absolutely still love him. Just look at early polling for the GOP primaries, he’s still leading by a huge landslide in the majority of states: nytimes.com/…/2024-poll-nyt-siena-trump-republica…
Is it depressing as hell that so many people are still obsessed with this corrupt, shitty buffoon? Definitely. But I keep seeing more and more comments on here acting like Trump is irrelevant and his base is virtually non-existent when that’s just not true (which is ironic, given how one of the main criticisms against Trump and his ilk is their detachment from reality).