Comment on Images leak of Valve's next game, and it's an Overwatch-style hero shooter

Veraxus@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

• sebinspace@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  Won’t hurt to give it a shot, but I’ll be cautiously optimistic.

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• Cethin@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  This seems reasonably different than the headline implies. It’s a hero shooter, in that there are classes based on heroes (like Team Fortress 2 as well). The gameplay is more moba it sounds like. I think I’ve only played one other moba shooter, and it failed quickly, so that’s different already.

  It’s not a copy of OW, and even if it were it could still innovate. Half Life might be a “Doom Clone”, but it did stuff no one had done before. There’s plenty of innovation potential without inventing a new genre. Even if you do create a new genre, it’s probably still just evolution of existing things. No one ever has an original idea. It’s always inspired by their environment.

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  • Veraxus@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    All fair points, and given the way Valve operates (like a free collective) this would only happen if there were some really passionate people leading and working on it.

    That said, it’s still a mix of things I just really do not have any interest in. Competitive online game, esports focused, MOBA-like, PvP, hero shooter… that’s a whole lot of hard no-thanks from me.

    I’d love some new light-narrative single player and/or co-op stuff from them, though.

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• Donjuanme@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  Man, I was taught “don’t judge a book by it’s cover” but you’re burying it by it’s genre, I hope you can experience new things once in a while .

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  • Inui@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    What if you’ve already played all the big names in that genre and hate all of them?

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    • EatATaco@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      It’s been many years, maybe even decades, since I liked a straight up turn-based single player RPG. I seriously can’t think of one that has sucked me in since FFX. I even tried Divinity Original Sin 2 after so much hype and good reviews from my friends. But I just didn’t like it.

      However, Baldur’s Gate 3 sucked me in. According to steam, approaching 100 hours of playtime (although I’m sure there is a good chunk of time where I just walked away with the PC with it “paused.”)

      I’m not saying you’ll like the game, I have no idea. But to already be convinced that you won’t like it based on pretty much the nothing we’ve got it terribly presumptuous.

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      • Inui@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        I don’t think ‘past data’ is nothing. Something might defy your expectations but its perfectly reasonable to expect you won’t like something if you’ve never liked anything from that genre before. I’m not ordering pizza from a restaurant if I’ve eaten 12 pizzas before and never liked any of them. I’m ordering the pasta or something.

        Especially if you have liked games in other genres that company has made in other genres you already know you do like. I’d have been pretty excited about almost any other Valve announcement.

        I hope the game is good for people who like that sort of thing.

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      • Veraxus@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        To be faaaaiiiiir… D:OS (both of them) make the age-old mistake of having really slow, uninteresting, prologuish RPG starts. It takes a solid 5h of powergaming or 10h+ of normal play to get past that hump. That’s the point where the story picks up and you have enough tools to start really taking advantage of the games sandbox.

        With BG3 they really seemed to have learned their lessons.

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    • SkyezOpen@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Well, it’s valve, so honestly the odds of it being genre-defining in an already established genre? Pretty high, actually. Seriously, when is the last time valve put out a shit game?

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      • Inui@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        Well they did make Artifact. But if something is the best of something you already don’t like, that’s still disappointing. I don’t play games like DOTA or CS so outside of Half Life Alyx they haven’t put out anything they caters to me in a very long time. Which is fine.

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    • Donjuanme@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Going to let an unannounced games rumored genre ruin your day?

      Gamers need to set a better image of themselves.

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      • Inui@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        I never said that lol. The top commentor used a well known meme.

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  • Veraxus@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    I hate beets. HATE them. I will eat durian, thousand-year eggs, stinky tofu, and a million other things that most people won’t touch… but beets? Fuck beets. Their sweet-yet-earthy funk is like a dead animal that has just started to decompose. I don’t care if they are cooked, picked, or stewed in borscht… hate them and won’t touch them. They ruin everything they touch.

    This is like that. They are cooking with lots of beet-like ingredients. Some people will love that. But as for me…I hate it… I hate just everything about it… and I hate it because I’ve experienced all those ingredients before. Over and over and over again. What they are making is for a very particular crowd, and I am not part of said crowd.

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  • Cethin@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    This seems reasonably different than the headline implies. It’s a hero shooter, in that there are classes based on heroes (like Team Fortress 2 as well). The gameplay is more moba it sounds like. I think I’ve only played one other moba shooter, and it failed quickly, so that’s different already.

    It’s not a copy of OW, and even if it were it could still innovate. Half Life might be a “Doom Clone”, but it did stuff no one had done before. There’s plenty of innovation potential without inventing a new genre. Even if you do create a new genre, it’s probably still just evolution of existing things. No one ever has an original idea. It’s always inspired by their environment.

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