Comment on Funny, those guys don't usually agree on that much

• orrk@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  look, tankies aren’t leftists, they are fascists wearing the skin of the lefties they killed

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  • BakerBagel@midwest.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Fascism isn’t just authoritarianism. It is a certain set of conditions that can essentially be boiled down to as “colonial violence against the imperial core” but it is incredibly more complicated than that.

    Words have meaning, and you should look up those meanings before you start just throwing them around.

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    • kameecoding@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      that’s a stupid definition of fascism.

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    • Cryophilia@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Fascism has nothing to do with colonial vs imperial, wtf

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      • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        Can’t have fascism without a strong national identity and an activist military.

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    • KarfiolosHus@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      The political spectrum is not linear, but circular and fascism and communism sit on the join but with different lie.

      Coming from a country that experienced both several times in the past century, I hope the real people tankies would just shut up and move to Russia to learn a life lesson.

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      • orrk@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        nope, the Marx Leninist idea of a vanguard party doesn’t even purport to be communism, rather the idea that you must go through a phase of state capitalism to grow the nation’s capital after a revolution (revolutions tend to destroy capital) before you can enact communism, it’s just that during the age of ML Fascism was the popular new political ideology, and Lenin did heavily base the idea of the vanguard party on a lot of the same basic understanding as the fascists did.

        and of course the fascists did what they do and killed the lefties

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      • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        fascism and communism sit on the join but with different lie.

        Don’t leave us hanging.

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    • orrk@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Words DO have meaning, and you just butchered so many of them it’s not even funny.

      fundamentally, fascism is the belief that social hierarchies are not only natural but preferable to any other social system that attempts to disrupt said natural order, all other aspects of fascism stem from this one line of understanding

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      • BakerBagel@midwest.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        Social hierarchies are always going to be present, even anarchists believe that. Fascism just assumes that they are natural and inherent, while leftists beleive that those hierarchies should be voluntary or chosen by the people.

        Just becauae you haven’t done any political reading doesn’t mean i don’t know what words read.

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  • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    tankies aren’t leftists

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• cook_pass_babtridge@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  Hey, I’m neither of those. I’m an op!

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