it’s better in my opinion to keep a fucked up secret then have 10 men die
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Yeah unfortunately nothing is infallible and it’s better in my opinion to keep a fucked up secret then have 10 men die so we can be open and honest all the time
Zagorath@aussie.zone 5 months ago
naevaTheRat@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 months ago
You’re one of the saner voices around these parts.
Zagorath@aussie.zone 5 months ago
I honestly don’t even know how to respond to someone saying they would rather have 10 people die because of keeping a fucked up secret than have an open and honest society. Like seriously that’s just beyond the pale.
Aussiemandeus@aussie.zone 5 months ago
I’m saying it’s better a fucked up secret is kept than 10 people die not the other way around
naevaTheRat@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 months ago
I think often when people think of other people dying they internalise it as a headline does. Such and such died, ok that’s sad I guess.
I think the correct way to interpret it is to take the death of the person you have been the closest to ever. All that pain and grief and rage, multiply that by the number of people expected to feel that per person, then by the number of people dead. you start to interpret pointless, preventable, or cruel deaths with the appropriate amount of madness-tinged grief then.
naevaTheRat@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 months ago
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Ilandar@aussie.zone 5 months ago
Men (and children) did die, though. That’s the point.
unionagainstdhmo@aussie.zone 5 months ago
More than 10 I might add
Ilandar@aussie.zone 5 months ago
Yes, although I did find it a little ironic that when I went to Wikipedia to check this it specifically mentioned “at least 10” deaths. All human lives are equal, of course, but to me there is an important difference between the deaths of completely innocent and uninvolved civilians vs the deaths of service men and women to have chosen to involve themselves in a conflict. Western bias makes it easy to overlook this point, but those civilians who were murdered are literally just us in a parallel universe. We owe it to ourselves as much as anyone else to properly investigate these crimes and bring the perpetrators to justice. And if governments and military organisations are unable to do this transparently, then anyone who does (journalists, whistleblowers, etc) should be celebrated and protected.
naevaTheRat@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 months ago
If we want militaries to be more than murderers for hire then murders by militaries must be taken at least equally as seriously as murders by random citizens.