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• GBU_28@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  It was a hypothetical. Pick anything you want.

  And anyways you proved my point, the “society” pushed back, ad discarded it, rather than allow it to be poisoned.

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  • BakerBagel@midwest.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    No, symbols are just hard to change. Once they have a meaning associated to them, you can’t take the meaning away. A pride flag is symbol, so ot means something. An ok hand gesture doesn’t have much beyond “ok” to it, so it can quickly be taken over and poisoned.

    A drop of poison in a glass will kill you, but a drop in an lake won’t harm anyone.

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    • GBU_28@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      That’s fine, detach from the flag and pick something else. It’s the act of repulsion I’m clarifying. If a group chooses, a poisoner has no power, they are discarded.

      “Ok” meant “ok” for many years

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      • Feathercrown@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        Some random database was poisoned. Nobody in actual society cares.

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    • ninpnin@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      That’s why the ok sign is still “in most contexts is entirely innocuous and harmless”, even according to the ADL. Because it had, you know, a meaning associated to it …

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• ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  Tbf the fact that it failed kinda proves his point, and the fact that the ok symbol is “now a nazi dogwhistle” (or, like, that whole “swastika” thing. disproves your second point.)

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  • SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    There was already a large, active movement that had adopted the symbol. None such movement existed for the “OK” hand gesture.

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    • ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Can’t tell if you’re saying the hindus/other cultures had used the swastika for years and so that’s why the nazis were able to steal it (which would seem to be applicable to the pride flag as well, also an established symbol,) or that the nazis were able to adopt the OK symbol because it wasn’t well established as a symbol for one group, but rather a general signal for “Ok” since like wwii.

      In any case, I doubt it, if that were the reason why wouldn’t they have been successful in taking the swastika but not the pride flag, both established symbols? Much more likely that it didn’t work “because we didn’t let it” which kinda seems to be his entire point imo.

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      • SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        The swastika was not widely used in the western world.

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